Archive Postings: October 2002 - January 2003
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Dave Hodges 30/01/2003
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great news about the CD reisues, does ne1 know if they will include
historic sleevenotes like the Argus/No Smoke/Testing remasters did?
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Gary Carter 30/01/2003
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Mike - we hope to be able to confirm the bonus tracks within the next
few days. These details are being squared away by Martin and the record
company as I write...
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Ted Gornick 30/01/2003
taper1@attbi.com
To John in Seattle who emailed me regarding WA taping policy:please send
me your email address-for some reason, it did not appear in the send
field .
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mike tarling 29/01/2003
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good to hear of the new remasters coming out soon - does anybody know
what the bonus tracks are?
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Mike 29/01/2003
mikerule@hotmail.com
George - I agree with what you said about those fortunate enough to see
the original lineup. Im only 19 and first saw the band at the Birmingham
Library gig in 1992 - so with regards to both mk1 and mk2, I only have
my small video collection (which I'm trying to build up if anyone wishes
to help!) to enjoy performances of these lineups. Feeg - email me
regarding the Town & Country gig.
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Ted Gornick 29/01/2003
taper1@attbi.com
Greetings to all, Wishbone Ash will be hitting Portland Oregon on the
21st of February and I could not be more thrilled. I'd like to pose a
question to the group.What is the band's official or unofficial taping
policy? I would dearly love to capture them live to DAT on that evening.
Do they allow board access or an audience recording only. Any live
recording is for trade only and absolutely NFS!! And of course I would
give a copy to the band. Please email me with any info or contacts
regarding my request. Thanks for your time.
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feeg 28/01/2003
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I remember taping a shortened version of the Town adn Country Concert
but unfortunately taped over it by mistake. I would love to hear it
again so if anyone knows how i can get a copy please let me know. I do
remember thinking that Why Dont We and Throw Down the Sword were
brilliant that night, especially Why Dont We which seemed a better
version than on the Colston Hall Anniversary concert the year before. On
another subject, looking back now, Wishbone were up against some pretty
stiff competition round about 1978-1982. Led Zep, Rainbow, Sabbath, Thin
Lizzy were all major groups and i remember seeing the likes of UFO
playing good stuff also at that time. New British groups like Saxon etc
were also beginning to break new ground. I find it hard to remember now
how Wishbone thought of themselves, whether they looked on bands like
the above as direct competition. Also, would it be fair to say that when
it came to a rank order, Wishbone were in the Second List with Zeppelin
etc in the first league?
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ray faulder 28/01/2003
rayfaulder@aol.com
Yes I have got the Town and County gig on video,and I do love the band ,
but I still think that Ted had lost something after being out of the
band for so long. There again I loved his early work with the band, but
I think Laurie fitted in perfectly and made some of my finest Ash
moments, as well as some great gigs. As a matter of interest does
everyone know that Ted made a guest appearance on John Lennon's Imagine
album.
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Dee 28/01/2003
firesign@ptd.net
George, I love what you said about the MK1 line-up, chemistry, and
Laurie's entry into the band. Fat Drummer, sorry about the e-mail! I'm
not on the other message board yet. And for Mike Rule and Feeg, it's
great to hear compliments for Steve Upton! I think his style was really
unique, just as Martin's, and the two of them together were just
phenomenal; more than a rhythm section, that doesn't do them justice. I
have been thinking that if Steve wasn't a great drummer (and
percussionist, I might add) that something would've gone amiss with
Martin playing lead bass and melody. But it worked really beautifully
and gave Wishbone a foundation unlike any other band I've ever listened
to. And Mike and Brian, yes, I love Martin's vocals and have spent more
hours than I could possibly count listening to him without growing tired
of his voice. That's a lot coming from me. There are very few I can say
that about. For me, listening to WA is like spending time with my best
friend. Actually, music is my best friend and always has been since I
was a kid. I imagine I would be a totally different person if I'd done
something besides listen to music, but that was what I loved to do, and
I can't imagine it being any other way. I probably should've learned to
play an instrument.
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Gordon 27/01/2003
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Gary C - how might I obtain a copy of the aforementioned video?? In US
format?? By the way, did I tell you how much I loved your book??
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Rich T 27/01/2003
rtomas@go2.pl
Mike, if you mean the gig of 5/3/1990 then you are absolutely right. I
have it on video (Gary C thx again!) and watch a few times a month at
least. Not only did Ted play the guitar brilliantly, but his vocal was
also superb, remember Jail bait? Steve's leaving the band was also a
disaster, no doubt. Anyway, I don't think I have ever seen such a load
of energy and vitality from any other WA line ups, they really were on
fire then!
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George 26/01/2003
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Mike, I think anyone fortunate enough to have seen the MKI line-up will
remember that one of the main reasons this band rose to fame above so
many others was due to the extraordinary talents that came together to
make such original music and great live performances. Sometimes referred
to as 'chemistry'. Most bands would not have survived the departure of a
Ted Turner, but due to great judgement and maybe some luck, Laurie
fitted in so well and actually inspired a new direction and vitality.
There is only one Steve Upton as there is only one Andy, Ted and Martin.
We are very fortunate to have Andy still giving us new recording and
gigs. And a couple of great tribute bands giving us a taste of the past.
However I guess I am not alone in hoping that even for a one-off, we
will get the chance to see a MKI or II live performance again.
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Mike 25/01/2003
mikerule@hotmail.com
Re 'Ted's sloppiness'. I think in the whole of the 20th anniversary gig
he makes one mistake - for a whole gigs worth thats pretty impressive.
However, have many people seen the Town & Country Club gig from 1990. An
amazing selection of tracks played with more energy and precision than
Ive ever heard from a Wishbone concert - beats the anniversary gig into
the ground! That is one reason why Steve Upton's leaving seems more of a
loss - the band were on fire at that point!!!! Anyone agree??
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Iñaki A. 25/01/2003
pikotto@hotmail.com
Happy New Year to all Wishbone fans! and thank you GARY & MIKE, I love
this web site...Again here...wonderful!! I hope to see this year MT with
his band.
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FatDrummer 23/01/2003
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DEE....I got your e-mail, but again was unable to get a reply back to
you (for the same reason as before). Don't know what's going on but it
looks like i'm destined not to get your recordings. Thanx anyway...i'm
always on the 'official' board if you feel like trying that.
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Tony Smith 23/01/2003
tonystix@Yahoo.com
Just wanted to know what Merv was up to these days, he was one of my
college tutors at the Shelley Campus,I learned a lot from him and Jase
Fillingham,though I don't know if they would remember me, I was there at
the same time as people such as Jaz Soor, Martin Bagot, Adrian Mills,
Mark Weaver,Nik Wall etc. I am still writing songs, playing drums &guitar(I
played rhythm guitar on the rendition of "Lyin' Eyes" in Ray Johnson's
recording lesson,-and not many people know this, but Jase played the
bass part!. Happy days!,would like to see both Jase and Merv again I
have beaten cancer twice in the last 3 years and am still kicking!. Keep
on rockin' boys!.
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Jed 22/01/2003
j.lang@finoz.cz
Hi, what´s new
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Gordon 21/01/2003
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Ray - I don't recall seeing any sloppiness on Ted's part in the 20th
Anniversary DVD. Perspiration - yes, sloppy musicianship - no.
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ray faulder 21/01/2003
rayfaulder@aol.com
Just remembered, I also have 'Live in japan'and the raraties collection.
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ray faulder 21/01/2003
rayfaulder@aol.com
Chris Auld, Yes I have seen the 20 th Anniversary concert, that was why
I thought Ted was sloppy !!! Laurie on the 'Marquee' video was superb,
although Andy was very subdued. I've been a fan since the beginning when
I bought the 'Blind Eye' single. I have every album since. I'm 48 and
still love the band. Bona Fide is a great album , back on form big time.
Raw to the Bone was dreadful. I have the 'tape' versions of Hear to
Here, Strange Affair' and Live in Chicago, but have never seen the C.
D'S.
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FatDrummer 21/01/2003
fatdrummer@blueyonder.co.uk
DEE...I tried e-mailing you and got my mail bounced back to me.
Appearently mail from my location 'wasn't allowed' on yours. Now this is
a shame seeing as I would love for you to do some recording for me. If
you go on the 'official' site I get on the message board there.
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Fat Drummer 20/01/2003
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Winder....and to which other WA discussion group are you refering?
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Gordon 20/01/2003
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Gary Sawyer - Yes, it's true - Wishbone are due to play the 'Jaxx' club
in Springfield, VA on March 7th - both will play a 90-minute set amd
Wishbone will be on first.
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winder 20/01/2003
winder10@msn.com
hi dee,my copy of number of the brave was a russian import!also enjoyed
listening to WA music you sent me. seems to me some of these die hard WA
fans need to join the other WA discussion group
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Dee 19/01/2003
firesign@ptd.net
Fat Drummer, isn't Number the Brave on CD as a Japanese import? I know
I've got it. We've got Live Dates II on vinyl and have a good turntable.
Can I record it for you? Email me off list if you're interested. I know
there's a one-album version and a two-album version, and we have both.
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FatDrummer 19/01/2003
got_them@myhoose.co.uk
Nice to see some releases, but i'd rather that they were Live Dates II
and Number The Brave. I've already got those three on cd...you see. :D
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bobc 19/01/2003
bobc33@ntlworld.com
Yeah, got pre-order notification today that Hear to Hear, Strange Affair
& Noeveau Calls from a mail order firm.
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Andy Yates 18/01/2003
andyyates@wishboneash.com
seems H to H and Strange Affair are destined for release this year
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Gary Sawyer 18/01/2003
gary.sawyer@another.com
I've just seen a rumour, on a Budgie messageboard, that Ash & Budgie are
to gig together in the USA. Can anyone substantiate this?
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Gary Sawyer 18/01/2003
gary.sawyer@another.com
Andy - did you find out if Strange Affair is due for re-release?
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Andy YATES 17/01/2003
andyyates@wishboneash.com
Henry, e are all cracking on a bit, not many of us have a full head of
hair, and our own teeth, some have stopped growing upwards and went
OUTWARDS instead. (see Fat Drummer. Musically, we have a superb band
playing the great music we all got hooked on. We have been described by
some as an extended family. From Wishbone related events, i got
"friends" all over the world, we share a passion for a few things, but
top of that list is WISHBONE ASH music. We bithc and whine ocasionally,
we have disagreements just like any family, but when these four guys hit
a stage anywhere in the world, all past ills are forgiven. Gigs are not
what you may imagine, it isnt a bunch of iddle aged, fat boring old
farts nodding away in nostalgic harmony, you would be surprised how many
bring their kids along, and how many of those kids enjoy things as much
as their wrinkleys. So, Spring tour dates can be found at
www.wishboneash.com. BE THERE, see what you are missing and you never
know, one of us may just buy you a pint. (not me, I am poor)
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FatDrummer 17/01/2003
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Henry.....I'm 43 and still mad about the band. I too lost contact with
them and thought they had long since split-up. I can honestly say that
the last 8 years since I rediscovered them have been magic. 3 studio
albums Live Dates 3 Tracks - live double cd spanning the years
Distillation - 4 cd box set spanning the history of the band. Numerous
gigs. 4 Ash Conventions. Jeez Henry...you've got some catching up to
do!! Don't dally any longer!
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bob c 16/01/2003
bobc33@ntlworld.com
Hey Henry I bought those first 3 albums too and have to admit that it
was then that the band were at their creative peak, but that doesn't
mean that much of the output since isn't worth listening to. As for you
not recognising any membes apart from Andy, do not despair! I think if
you went to see them now you'd be hooked again. And their latest album
Bona Fide is very good too. Go and see them if you can on the spring
tour. The current musos put on a damn good show & can guarantee you'll
be dusting those LP's off after that. Don't be put off by any
debate/nit-picking, mate. If you can't get to a live gig, then Live
Dates I, II & III are all extremely worthy representations of the band's
performances throughout the years. Go for it!
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feeg 16/01/2003
feegash@wishbone714.fsnet.co.uk
I would like to contact Martin Turner. Does anyone have the e-mail
address to do that. I can be contacted at the e-mail address i have
posted if the information has to be given that way. Cheers.
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Gary Sawyer 16/01/2003
gary.sawyer@another.com
Henry, that's one of the most depressing posts I've ever
heard........you got married and the albums went in the cupboard? GET
THEM OUT AND PLAY THEM! DON'T SUCCUMB TO MIDDLE/OLD AGE! Admittedly I'm
only 27, but there are loads of people in the Wishbone Ash fan community
who are married (some with grown-up kids) and on the wrong side of 40!
You're as old as you feel, and i relaly think you need to start living a
little!
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HenryG 16/01/2003
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I stumbled on this site purely by accident, and looking at the clock I
see I've been here for over an hour. It seems like just a few minutes.
Suddenly makes me feel old too. I bought Wishbone Ash, Pilgrimage and
Argus when the came out. Thought they were really great. Wishbone 4 was
a disappointment as were all the other albums I bought - everyone up to
Twin Barrels Burning. Was that 20 years ago ? That was the year I got
married and life changed. All the old alums went into the back of the
wardrobe in the spare room, and I suppose they're still gathering dust
there today. I haven't heard of any of the latest line-up apart from
Andy. Will I get interested in the again. Probably not. 30 years on, the
Argus that I remember was a brilliant album. I can't see any mileage in
looking at all the new stuff, hoping for a Mark 2. For those who are
fans of the latest incarnation, I send my best wishes. May the band give
you as much pleasure as they did to me all those years ago.
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Gordon 15/01/2003
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Calling all USA fans - We have some live dates to look forward to in
February and March. Coming soon to a state near you!!
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Mike 15/01/2003
mikerule@hotmail.com
Feeg mate - it was listening to that version of Outward Bound which made
me write my previous message! Glad my views are shared by at least one
other person! Sometimes I feel Steve Upton has been forgotten. As far as
Living Proof goes, I don't think you can beat LD's2! Anyway - cheers
Feeg!
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Feeg 14/01/2003
feegash@wishbone714.fsnet.co.uk
Adding a point on the vocals and drumming, the Tracks CD recently out
has a fantastic rendition of Persephone. Martin Turners vocals are great
on this, perhaps better than on the version on Live DAtes 2. I just dont
understand why the song fades out just when the guitar solos are hitting
thier peak??. As far as drumming goes, when i saw that Outward Bound was
on Tracks, i thought, interesting, lets see how the 2001 version of the
band do it. Unfortunately, all i could hear was the slapping of drums
all over the place without it would seem , any real purpose or beat.Is
it just me? Also, can i mention that having heard Living Proof again on
Tracks, i actually now prefer the heavier version played by Andy and
Laurie on the Phoenix video at the Marquee in 83'.While appreciating
both versions, Andys vocals suit the heavier sound on that song.
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Mike 14/01/2003
mikerule@hotmail.com
I have to agree with Brian - there's just something about Martin's
vocals! I also feel this way about Steve's drumming - seeing the band
live, I feel there has been an injustice to his contribution - whichever
drummer it has been on stage. I know as a drummer myself that everyone
has their own style and this should be part of the performance, but
sometimes I have left a gig in the last few years with the feeling that
it isn't the style that belongs to the song. From a drummers point of
view - it would be like Throw Down The Sword with someone else playing
the closing solo other than Andy.But hey, things change! But on the
other side of the spectrum, I feel Bone Fide is the best studio product
of the band since Just Testing - just an excellent album! Anyway, i'll
get of my soapbox now, get on the phone and order my tickets for April!
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Brian W. 13/01/2003
proudwords@comcast.net
Thanks to everyone for the information regarding "The Alchemist". I'd
like to chime in on Live in Chicago. I don't listen to this CD too often
because I've never been a huge fan of either Andy's or Ted's voices on
the classics. I love Andy on "Strange Affair" and some of the newer
material but I just miss Martin Turner's voice on the classics. Now I
like the recent albums a lot (Bona Fide is brilliant!) but in a live
setting (i.e. Live in Chicago)there's just something lacking vocally,
IMHO.
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mike tarling 13/01/2003
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yes, but one solo doesnt make a strummer. no seriously, that is one
helluva solo and although i never saw ted in the 70-74 period, he was
still mightily impressive between 88-92.
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Chris Auld 12/01/2003
chrisauld1@hotmail.com
Ray, Have you seen The 20th anniversary show(with Ted!) If you have, you
wouldn't be saying that about Ted, especially his solo on why don't we,
which I still think is one of the best solos Ive ever heard....
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Andy Yates 12/01/2003
andyyates@wishboneash.com
for those searching for The Alchemist, if this info is of any use, my
copy is on Sony Music as someone said and its cat no is 480971/2.
Sometimes these numbers are useful. Apart from the obvious Ebay, try
Amazon.com, or amazon.co.uk they have started dealing in second hand
items now. good hunting.
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ray faulder 11/01/2003
rayfaulder@aol.com
Laurie and Andy together was the best period foe WA, saw them numerous
times. The songs like The way of the world, FUBB, valediction, Hometown,
are my favourites. Ted Turner was too sloppy when he came back.
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fred r 11/01/2003
fr21555@aol.com
Just reading the recent comments..saw mention of Laurie in Home and his
subsequent entry to Wishbone. I think Gary covered it in the "Blowin'
Free" book? Home had been a support act to an Ash tour. After Ted's
departure, Andy sat in on a few gigs with Al Stewart and Home I caught
the 'jam' they had at the Capitol Theater in Port Chester, NY in '74,
playing "All Along the Watchtower". You knew immediately this was Ted's
replacement! The vibe was there and the rest, as they say, is history.
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Marcus G 11/01/2003
grahams555@aol.com
Re-Live In Chicago: Yes the guitar interplay between Ted & Andy is quite
superb, even if Ted is a little heavy handed (loose), but his vocals are
a taste of what could have been if he had stuck around after 73. Having
said this, with no disrespect meant, the bass/drum mix is pathetic, (i
can hear the audience talking louder). Classic Ash was always a fine mix
of melodic/soulfull twin lead, growling up front bass, thoughtful
drumming & Doris Day like Vocals (joke).
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Dee 11/01/2003
firesign@ptd.net
Mike T, I'm with you on this one. Andy and Ted sound great together, but
the rhythm section is lacking. Maybe they're good musicians and all, but
the very tempo and "gait" of some songs changes to the point that I
don't enjoy listening to it. I'm with you, Live Dates II is where it's
at for me. That and the '78 and '80 BBC Hammersmith Odeon shows. Wow!!
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mike tarling 10/01/2003
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re live in chicago, i would agree that the track list is good and the
guitar playing is superb, but i think the rhythm section really lets
this cd down. i would say it is way down the league of wishbone ash live
cds (ya cant beat live dates II).
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David 10/01/2003
dgprozzo@bellsouth.net
Gary, I agree with your comments about Live In Chicago. It's probably my
most played WA CD. There are so many WA CDs that cover the same songs, I
find that Ted and Andy's guitar playing on this CD is superb...besting,
I think, what is available on other CDs and by any of Ted's
replacements. (Though, I am a Laurie fan too.)
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Gary Sawyer 10/01/2003
gary.sawyer@another.com
Lance - a lot of people are not keen on the Powell/Turner/Pyle/Weston
line-up of the band that plays on Live in Chicago, but I think it's a
great album, although the sound quality could be better. I haven't
bothered buying 'Tracks' as I already have most of the material on
bootleg tapes and CDs!
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Gary Sawyer 10/01/2003
gary.sawyer@another.com
Brian, 'The Alchemist' was released as part of Sony's Rewind series a
few years ago. As far as I'm aware, it's not currently available, but
you should be able to pick up a second-hand copy from somewhere. It's a
fine album (and I'm not even a big Laurie fan!) and well worth hunting
down.
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Brian W. 10/01/2003
proudwords@comcast.net
Dee and Bobby, thanks for weighing in on the topic. I really dig
Laurie's guitar playing, as we discussed before on here, and I hope he
comes back into a higher profile gig than the Queen-tribute thing. His
talent deserves to be heard more. Now I just need "The Alchemist" album.
Does anyone know if it has been released on CD yet? Cheers!
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Lance 10/01/2003
lance.spurling@dawson-uk.com
Received "Tracks" live album for Christmas. Disappointing. Still believe
"The Living Proof - Live in Chicago" to be the best live album. Anyone
have any other views?
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Bobby Cameron 10/01/2003
robbie_cameron@digica.co.za
Hi Guys!!! I've had the HOME album since the 80's and 'Fancy Lady
Hollywood Child' is fantastic. There isn't a bad track on the album. I
can't find it on cd anywhere here in South Africa so I haven't listened
to it for a long time. Dee, the band found Laurie because HOME were
playing support band to Wishbone Ash on a tour in the 70's. The bassist
is Cliff Williams now with AC/DC. Laurie, if you read this, nice shoes
on the cover china. Bobby in Cape Town.
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Dee 10/01/2003
firesign@ptd.net
Brian, It came from you, so I had to check this album out. I'm listening
right now. My favorites on first listen are definitely "Fancy Lady,
Hollywood Child," "Baby Friend of Mine," "Western Front," and "Lady of
the Birds," great bass in that song, by the way. I can definitely pick
Laurie's playing out, and it's neat his style really stayed much the
same in Wishbone. That's kind of amazing to me, that the band found him
and that his playing fit so perfectly with the band. Thanks for bringing
this up. I've known of these albums for a long time, Kevin has 3 of
them, and I never listened to them!
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Brian W. 09/01/2003
proudwords@comcast.net
I just received and was just listening to Home's self-titled 2nd CD and
its so brilliant!!! How did this band escape my discovery for so long.
Everyone knows that I'm an unabashed Wishbone Ash MK II fan but its
taken me forever to find the Home albums. I got the first one last year
and I liked it and then I found the Live at the BBC Cd and that is also
good. But the second album is just insane. Fantastic! Songs like Dreamer
and Lady of the Birds could easily be Wishbone Ash. The guitars are just
phenomenal. Anyone agree?
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Martin Adams 08/01/2003
martinadams@iqindustrial.com
Has anyone got an update re the release of "Night of the Guitars" on DVD
and if available where from? Cheers.. keep up the great work.
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Alan Cottrell 07/01/2003
contact@ashboneuwish.co.uk
Yep. We're at the Club Riga, check our web site for details
www.ashboneuwish.co.uk. We'll be debuting some new material. Hope to see
some of you there.
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Ruby 06/01/2003
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Just heard Ashbone U Wish are playing on Saturday in South End.
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feeg 05/01/2003
feegash@wishbone714.fsnet.co.uk
In reply to Ang's request on Argus, i first heard the Argus album
probably around 1976. The songs and the themes they used were very
interesting to me as the themes of battle, English myth and legend etc
seemed to me to be to be direct out of the sort of science fantasy books
that i was reading then.The twin guitar sound was definitely different
to anything else i had heard and my favourite was always Sometime World.
I bought Front Page News in 1977 and have been a fan ever since.
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andy yates 05/01/2003
andyyates@wishboneash.com
Billy... The KEY to it is "use the spell checker" (ooops did I mention
KEYS?)
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andy yates 05/01/2003
andyyates@wishboneash.com
I think that is the other one gary. I'll check
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AnG 04/01/2003
ang@exmuff.freeserve.co.uk
i'm a student doing a project on Wishbone Ash- in particular the Argus
album. I wondered if any you die hard fans would drop me a line saying a
few words of what WA and Argus meant to you in 1972.
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billy auld 04/01/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
HEAR to HEAR is that the issue that plays HERE to HEAR backwards Andy?
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Gary Sawyer 04/01/2003
gary.sawyer@another.com
That's great news, Andy. Is Strange Affair due for a re-issue as well?
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andy yates 04/01/2003
andyyates@wishboneash.com
Hear to Here, along with other back issues are soon to be released on
the official reord label and web site. watch THAT space
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Rob Watson 03/01/2003
robert.watson14@btinternet.com
There are 4 copies of Here to Hear on ebay at this time http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=wishbone+ash+here
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FatDrummer 03/01/2003
No E-mail given
If you want try the Office yourself the web address is:
www,outerspacex.freeserve.co.uk/office.html
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FatDrummer 03/01/2003
ivegotheretohear.co.uk
Yes, Billy I indeed HAVE got Here To Hear on cd. Where from?.....a
Record Fair about 2 years ago I think...not sure. BTW: I've been onto
the bloke that does the bookings for The Office and he's not going to
follow it through. It seems that a few local bands are having trouble
getting bums on seats so he reckons it would be too much of a risk
financially. Sorry.
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billy auld 03/01/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
FatDrummer are you saying you got Here to Hear on cd? Where and when as
I've been trying to get it for ages on cd. Cheers Billy
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Bobby Cameron 03/01/2003
robbie_cameron@digica.co.za
Yes FatD, there seems to be a problem with the other site. A happy new
year to all ASH fans (even Sunderland supporters).
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FatDrummer 02/01/2003
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Got it on CD. What do you want?
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FatDrummer 02/01/2003
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Nothing said
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kate baxter 02/01/2003
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we are from co.durham john. can i just ask, has anyone here got the here
to here album? my dad and i have the 20 year anervercery dvd with songs
from that album but we cant for the life of us find the album either on
the net or in shops. help on this would be appreciated.
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FatDrummer 02/01/2003
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FAO: Andy Yates...yes even Man Utd fans (and Liverpool, Bobby. Hope you
don't think i'm being cheeky using your forum for this question Gary,
but is anybody else having problems getting the .com site forum to load?
FAO: Kate & Thomas Baxter....What part of the North East? John the Fat
Drummer Sooth Sheels.
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kate baxter 02/01/2003
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happy new year to all wishbone ash fans and to the band whome i think
are and allways have been incredable! iam 15years old and i have already
toured lots of the uk with the band. my dad has been a massive fan since
he was 15 (he's 45 now) so thats a long time! we would both like to wish
the band all the best and we will see again very soon! kate and thomas
in north east england
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FernandoCanal 02/01/2003
guitarra@recaflex.com.br
THE PERFECT BAND!!! Standing in the rain LIVE is a better song of the
world!!!
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andy yates 01/01/2003
andyyates@wishboneash.com
thanks Fat boy, does that also apply to Manchester United supporters?
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FatDrummer 01/01/2003
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Happy New Year to ALL Wishbone fans!
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Bobby Cameron 31/12/2002
robbie_cameron@digica.co.za
Hello Dee ... Merry Christmas. As you know I am a big Laurie fan and the
'New England' and FPN era are amongst my favorites (spelling just for
Dee). So don't feel too special feeg LOL. Feeg, if you go back on some
of these posts you will see some discussion on these albums. Cheers
Bobby in Cape Town
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Dee 31/12/2002
firesign@ptd.net
Hi Feeg, We talked about FPN a while ago & there are others who check in
here who really like that album! You're among fellow fans. To clear up a
point, it's not really because of Laurie that I love that era the most,
although I do like Laurie. It's the songwriting during that timeframe
and the way the band was evolving and maturing. I get the impression
that Martin was really finding his voice during those years, literally
and lyrically. And although I love the heaviness of the first album, I
naturally tend to lean more toward the polished sounding stuff. Martin's
bass was always audible, but it really got brought out on New England!
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feeg 30/12/2002
feegash@wishbone714.fsnet.co.uk
Going back to what Dee said, it must be dificult now for Wishbone to
know who their audience is, just as it was 20-25 years ago. You had to
kep changing and developing, because musical trends changed as well. I
remember when Wishbone played Dundee in 1980 on the Just Testing tour,
some louts were gobbing on Andy which he didnt like one bit but remember
the period. This was a time when punk was in the ascendency and it was
considered OK to do this by some people. Looking at Wishbone albums of
that time, No Smoke Without Fire (1978) marked a shift to a harder
direction by Wishbone after the US based New England and Front Page News
albums. Maybe this was a conscious or unconscious shift by Wishbone
towards what they perceived was the audience needed to sell records.1978
and onwards was a time of great musical upheaval in the UK and the
late70's/80's albums perhaps reflected the heavier rock pervalant at
that time.Just a thought. I have to say though that i can listen just as
easily to albums such as Front Page News as Argus etc. It isnt a album
that seems to get mentioned a lot in this forum but i love FPNews, Come
in From the Rain, Heartbeat and a great instrumental 714. Just a
different aspect of Wishbones musical progression. Hope this provokes
some comment.
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mike tarling 27/12/2002
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cheers jimbo!
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Jim Ord 26/12/2002
communitel@btconnect.com
Sorry! I forgot to wish all Wishbone fanatics a Happy Christmas and New
Year, especially Mike Tarling and family (I know you will read this) and
I will call you soon! Also regards to Gary Carter for the site, keep up
the good work
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Jim Ord 26/12/2002
communitel@btconnect.com
I do have an old video of the Year of the Child (UNICEF) concert which
features two of the tracks Ash played that night, Living Proof and
Helpless. I will try to produce a copy if anyone is interested
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Val E Dixon 25/12/2002
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Everything is gonna be alright......................
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Rich T. 25/12/2002
rtomas@go2.pl
Hi everybody! I haven't visited the site for a while, but this is to all
WA fans wherever you happen to live - Merry Christmas and all the best
in this new coming year. I hope your X-mas is just like mine ; white,
frosty and snowy. And if wishes can come true mine would be to see WA in
concert in my country. I agree with Dee entirely, Laurie is much
underrated! He did a great job on Lorelei and In all of my dreams, to
mention but these two. Having said that I still stick to mark I,
especially having seen the video with their concert in London 1990
(Gary, salute to you once more!). Now, picture all three of those guitar
tycoons playing together with Martin and Steve- this would be really a
treat to our, the fans, ears! Let's pray, so that Santa will fulfill
this wish before we kick the bucket!
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bob c 25/12/2002
bobc333@ntlworld.com
And a merry Christmas to all too!
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Gary Sawyer 24/12/2002
gary.sawyer@another.com
Merry Christmas to everyone.
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Brian W. 23/12/2002
proudwords@comcast.net
That's a fantastic comparison, Dee. I have always thought that Lindsay
Buckingham was underrated as a guitarist. I would like to see Laurie
Wisefield step out of the shadows and into something more identifiable.
But I guess he's got to make living doing what he's doing now. I'm now
listening to a live version of Rest in Peace from Vienna, Aug. 1975 on
the Startrucking Tour and it cooks...
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Dee 23/12/2002
firesign@ptd.net
I'm another fan of the Laurie era, although I love WA, Argus, and IV.
Sorrel is one of my all time favorites! I love Doctor, Everybody Needs a
Friend, and Ballad of the Beacon. I wouldn't trade any of those songs
for another Argus. In fact, Argus is around 4th on my list, as I put New
England, Just Testing, and Wishbone Ash ahead of it. Not that it's not
great, it's just that there's life after Argus, and I think THAT'S what
the shame was. Music was not the same in 1976 as it was in 1973. It was
changing. Sure, I love the early 70s music, and '69-'76 is my favorite
era for ALL music. But I would've gotten bored listening to the same
type album repeated through the years. I like the way the music changed,
with the exception of the 80s albums after Martin left. Also, I do like
Laurie's style and the comparison that comes to mind for me is Lindsay
Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac. I don't want to call it "bluegrass" but the
style of picking he did is similar.
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Fred R 22/12/2002
fr21555@aol.com
I will say that I was one who was lucky enough to have seen both MkI and
MkII Wishbone live. While the "classic Ash" title is largely placed on
the pre-Wishbone Four era, it would be hard for me, as others have
mentioned, to imagine Ted coming up with playing like that found on "Lorelei",
"Living Proof", etc. BOTH versions of the band were huge live. I saw
both versions at least twice each and on any given night, that version
was the best. I do feel that Wishbone Four WAS and is a good album. When
compared to some others that followed (Locked In to some extent and
certainly Raw to the Bone)it was, if at all, a very small disappoinment
for me. "Ballad of the Beacon" will always be a fave of mine. Andy and I
played it at my wedding two years ago. Talk about a moment for me! Being
married and playing alongside Andy Powell in the same day- dreams come
true! Happy holidays to all our friends in the U.K.!!
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mike tarling 22/12/2002
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i reckon that most people who saw the original mark i line up tend to
prefer that period to mark ii, whereas the fans who got into the band in
the mark ii period prefer that. as one of the younger fans (!) im in the
mark 2 camp. anyway, let's not get onto that one again! i would say
wishbone iv was the weakest of the mark 1 albums, similar to locked in
with mark 2, but there are still a lot of fans who like those albums.
when ted came back in the late 80s i did not expect him to be very good
as he had ben out of touch all those years, but in fact he was amazing -
it's very disappointing that he seems to have shut himself off again.
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Brian W. 22/12/2002
proudwords@comcast.net
I disagree with the comments regarding Ted Turner remaining in WA. IMHO,
I think Ted was good for the early progressive stuff but Laurie was much
more suitable (except for his vocals, which I admit were a little weak)
for the later 70's and 80's stuff. I know people prefer the early stuff
(and its great indeed) but Laurie's finger-picking, etc will always give
me goose-bumps. I love the original "Phoenix", "The King Will Come", etc
but Laurie just seemed to add something special. I also can't see Ted
producing late 70's classics like "Living Proof" and "You See Red". I
also rank "WBIV" as the worst of their output between 1970 and 1980.
Again, just an opinion...Cheers!
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Ray Pascual 22/12/2002
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Marcus G. I do so agree with you...the build up at the time was
fantastic: Wishbone Ash, Pilrgrimage and Argus. Then, in my view,
disaster! WA4 was not up to it...too many soppy songs. Son of Argus
would have been a great success but i assume the guys had ran out of
ideas. I also agree with you Marcus, that Ted may have been the member
who added that unusual WA style at that time and his departure was a
shame. He showed his style again later with songs such as "Standing in
the rain" and many others around that era. In my view, Ted's skills were
in his songwriting and probably still are....but when it came to live
playing he seemed to make many errors....or so it appears on the videos
i have. OK...enough from me...what are the veiws of the loyal fans out
there?
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Marcus G. 21/12/2002
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I remember Bob Harris host of TOGWT being a big fan of WA's in the early
70's. He would always plug WA in newspaper interviews, i'm sure that's
why WA became so popular outside of London, especially just before &
after the Argus release. As good an album as Wishbone IV is/was (I think
it is their best),if they had released as Steve says 'Son Of Argus' they
would probably have achieved icon status worldwide. I think Ted would
have been the key if he had hung around long enough. Merry Christmas
everyone.
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Russ T Guitar 20/12/2002
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By 'playing hand' I did of course mean his strumming (right) hand.
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Russ T Guitar 20/12/2002
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I reckon the 'Year of the gig' performance was screened on a Saturday
night when my parents were watching another channel. This was in the
days when there was only one TV per house. I switched over to catch
Laurie soloing on Helpless (I think) and reckon they played Bad Weather
Blues - or is my memory playing tricks? Re the Grey Whistle Test
screening of around 1977, seeing Laurie playing on Goodbye Baby was the
first time I saw a guitarist fret a note with his playing hand. Anyone
else remember this?
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Brian W. 19/12/2002
proudwords@comcast.net
Actually, I think the "Year of the Gig" was 1979. I've actually seen
this gig on one of those Napster-type free music download sites. They
played 4 songs, I believe. I have very grainy video footage with poor
sound quality which is from this show which was broadcast all over
Europe at the time. I'd love to find a watchable and/or listenable
version.
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Gordon 19/12/2002
same as before
Actually Feeg, I believe that was a benefit for 'The Year of the Child'
(1980-ish) and the lads dubbed it 'The Year of the Gig' because it was
the only concert they played that year. The concert was headlined by
none other than Cat Stevens and this was to be his last ever gig.
Hopefully, Gary Carter will give me 'brownie points' for paying
attention to every weord of his book! Anyway, like you, I wish there
were more videos/DVDs of Wishbone Ash available and hopefully someone
can enlighten us on that subject.
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feeg 18/12/2002
feegash@wishbone714.fsnet.co.uk
I remember seeing Wishbone on TV many years ago playing 2 songs for a
benefit concert that might have been called "The Year of the Cat"? They
played Living Proof and Helpless. Also remember seeing 2 taped
performances on the Old Grey Whistle Test when they played Come in From
the Rain and Goodbye Friend. Do they exist on video anywhere? Also, i
did have a copy of highlights of their concert played c 1991 which was
sponsored by Tennants and took place at the Town and Country Club. I
erased it by mistake, Does anyone know if this was released and
available to buy? I am pretty certain that Throw Down the Sword on the
Tracks CD came from that concert. Thanks, Feeg. N.B. Chris, Thanks for
the SetList.
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Dee 18/12/2002
firesign@ptd.net
Steve Upton was so great and fit the band so well that I didn't really
appreciate him fully until I listened to songs he'd recorded with
Wishbone played by one of his successors! I miss his style on later live
CDs almost as much as I miss Martin's.
Great songs played by the tribute band. My picks for a live show? Can
you imagine one of those "live by request" type shows, with the original
band plus Laurie on stage, at our mercy? haha! or a private show where
you get to pick every song? If you're gonna dream, dream big! Favorites
of mine are Alone, Baby the Angels are Here, Dream Train, Handy, You
Rescue Me, Lady Jay, Lifeline, Firesign, Living Proof, Lonely Island,
Queen of Torture, Rest in Peace, Say Goodbye, Sometime World, Why Don't
We, Sorrel, and Throw Down the Sword! What, too many? There can NEVER be
too long of a show!!
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Name not given 18/12/2002
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oh dear, silly season is here
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bored of illustrious already 17/12/2002
iluvsteveupton.com
can i join your band as fifth drummer???? PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE Mr
Illustrious
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tribute band 17/12/2002
illustrious@upton.com
i have a steve upton tribute band. can i flood this forum with messages
and bore everyone to death?!
an illustrious drummer
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Mike 16/12/2002
mikerule@hotmail.com
Its nice to see that Wishbone have made an appearance with Jailbait on
new CD 'while my guitar gently weeps' - number 3 in the hmv album
charts! Just goes to show - u cant keep a good band down!
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Chris 12/12/2002
chrisauld1@hotmail.com
Hi Feeg, The setlist recently has been....Dream train, In all of my
dreams, vas dis, persephone, FUBB, front page news, sometime world,
moutainside, strange affair, lifeline, throw down the sword, where were
you tomorrow, living proof and king will come, although we used to do
alot more including why dont we.
We havent ventured up north yet although we'd love to, and there may be
something on the cards up north. Im actually from Paisley(Glasgow) so I
appreciate how cold it is...
Alan, what about this double header gig??? Any ideas?
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Alan Cottrell 12/12/2002
contact@ashboneuwish.co.uk
Hi Feeg
You may also like to check out www.ashboneuwish.co.uk also.
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Feeg 11/12/2002
feegash@wishbone714.fsnet.co.uk
Thanks Chris, i had a look at the Moonstone site which was interesting.
Unfortunately i live up in the frozen North (Scotland) so you may not
have played up there. Could you tell me what your usual set list
consists of?
Thanks, Feeg.
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Chris 11/12/2002
chrisauld1@hotmail.com
Not being funny feeg but if that's your favorite setlist you should come
see my band, thats practically our set list! http://skymarshall.com/moon/moon.html
for gig dates! cheers Chris
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Richard Meyer 11/12/2002
richmeyer224@hotmail.com
Good information , but amateur design.
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feeg 10/12/2002
feegash@wishbone714.fsnet.co.uk
Thanks Gary for the set list. The first thing i notice from that is how
little there is from the albums that i first heard Ash on i.e. Front
Page News, New England and No Smoke Without Fire. Hearing the version of
Front Page News on the Tracks CD reminded me how good that song is. Part
of it is down to the angle Laurie Wisefield put on each solo.He to me
was the best and it is no surprise that many people rate the Mark 2 as
the best line up. To prove my point, take a listen to his intro to
Phoenix on the 1983 Live at the Marquee video, it is pure genius. For
what it is worth, here is my classic Wishbone Set List. Throw Down the
Sword, Living Proof, Front Page News, F.U.B.B., Persephone, The King
Will Come, You See Red, Warrior,In All Of My Dreams, Sometime World,Why
Dont We,No More Lonely Nights, Phoenix and Come in From the Rain. Beat
That!!!
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Gary Carter 10/12/2002
wishboneashukonline@hotmail.com
Set List for the Just Testing tour was: Doctor; Blind Eye; Way of the
World; Living Proof; The King Will Come; Lifeline; Insomnia; Phoenix;
Blowin Free; Helpless; Jailbait; Bad Weather Blues; Too Much Monkey
Business
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Feeg 09/12/2002
feegash@wishbone714.fsnet.co.uk
Does anyone have a set list for the 1980 Just Testing Tour? I went to
see Wishbone in 1980 but can hardly remember a blooming thing about it.
When i went to see them again in October 2002 in Fife on their UK tour
it brought back some great memories (i also have a copy of a picture
taken by my local paper before they went on if this would be of interest
for the website?) but if anyone can remember what they played in full,
please let me know. As a starter for 10, i am sure they played Living
Proof, Helpless, Bad Weather Blues, Too Much Monkey Business??, Insomnia
but thats all i remember. N.B. The support band were called the Dukes.
Thanks, Feeg
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Bobby Cameron 09/12/2002
robbie_cameron@digica.co.za
Yes Mr Yates ... you must type slower. I thought for a moment ... well
never mind.
Bobby in Cape Town (SA)
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PaulG 06/12/2002
p_goulbourn@:hotmail.com
Hiya,
New to the forum, old-ish Ash fan, last saw them in 1980, just bought
Distallation, brilliant.....and just bought a ticket to see them in
London in 2003, and already really looking forwards to it!
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Gordon 06/12/2002
No E-mail given
That's great news Andy - thanks.
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Ben Rodenberg 06/12/2002
ass-berlin@t-online.de
On January 11th 2003 Wishbone Ash will perform a special acoustic show
in the beautiful "Frankfurter Hof" (http://frankfurter-hof.mainz-online.de/)
in Mainz (near Frankfurt/Main). This event will give the audience a
chance to see the band in a completely different atmosphere. Wishbone
Ash will perform acoustic in an decent old theatre live and unplugged.
The show will be fully seated with different price categories (from
17,-EUR to 23,-EUR). You can get additional hotel rooms for amazing
rates along with your ticket. Please check www.kartenhaus.de for online
tickets and hotel bookings.
Please make all hotelbooking before December 11th.!!!
For all hotel guests we will be invited to a small cocktail party in the
lounge of the Frankfurter Hof after the show where you get to meet the
band.
The whole German tour is presented by the German guitarmagazin "Gitarre
& Bass" (www.gitarrebass.de) and the classic-heavy rock issus "BreakOut"
(www.breakoutmagazin.de) and you can buy tickets for every concert at
www.kartenhaus.de as well.
All gernell information and the complete schedule at www.ass-concerts.de
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andy yates 06/12/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
ooops, must type slower, mean USA tour
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andy yates 06/12/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
gordon, latest news i have on the SA tour is to start 15th Feb in
california, last for about 3 weeks and end up east coast somewhere. the
end of the tour is still being finalsed and i have no details other than
that... as soon as i do I'll post them here and everywhere else
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Dee 06/12/2002
firesign@ptd.net
Not only is it great to have the guestbook back, but how bout that new
tidbit under Martin's Member Profile???? I'm already lining up a
traveling partner in case my husband won't fly! Maybe my dream will come
true after all? Also, I've been listening to "New England" again the
past few days, that and discs 2 and 3 of the "Distillations" set. I was
also listening to "Strange Affair" quite a bit and recommend everyone
pull this one out and play it a few times and remember how good it
really is. I think it gets overlooked. One song that has really grown on
me is "Some Conversation." I remember the first few times I'd heard it I
didn't think much about it as it sounded different and "mature" somehow
compared to other Wishbone songs. But I've found that I'm entirely
receptive to that idea and think it's a great song and sung by Martin
from a very real and sincere place, if you know what I mean.
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Gordon Miller 05/12/2002
same as always
Congrats to all of you in Europe for having some new tour dates to look
forward to, but does anyone have any word on a possible US tour??
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Billy Auld 24/11/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Just a reminder that we REALLY NEED FEEDBACK so that the DOUBLE HEADER
venture can be organised to suit as many people as possible.We
especially would like anyone interested to state wether they would
attend ,north,south or midlands/yorkshire etc so that we can gauge the
venue location[s]and size etc. Come on folks help out please so that we
can help you.
Cheers Billy
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John Nixon 25/11/2002
john@jnixon54.fsnet.co.uk
Moonstone will be playing at The Golden Lion in Pontefract on Friday
10th Jan. and at The Crimea Tavern in Castleford on Friday 31st Jan.
More dates will be posted on our website (where there is now a, so far,
empty guestbook)in the near future.
The band is keen to get this double header thing off the ground and
whilst we're really not bothered about making money out of it we don't
wish to lose it either. Billy is prepared to work hard to make it happen
so whilst feedback is something we'd normally try to avoid, on this
issue it would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers, John
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....... 24/11/2002
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Nothing said
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Gary Carter 22/11/2002
as before
Gordon - very soon!!
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Gordon 21/11/2002
As before
Gary Carter - Any idea when a new batch of Q&A for Martin will be
posted??
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bob c 20/11/2002
bobc33@ntlworld.com
The kid drags ME along these days, Billy! You ought to have seen her
face when I said at one stage we weren't able to go... I've only seen
that sort of face at Fratton Park (but not lately, eh?). LOL.
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billy auld 20/11/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Yes Eddie the weekend would be a must. A link up with Martin would be
tremendous ofcourse let me just check the Blue Bishop's dates. If there
is only one gig happens it would be a good idea to have it on an
afternoon as this would help enormously for people travelling distances
and for any kids being DRAGGED along by eager parentsLOL. Would probably
mean hiring a place but will investigate this. Cheers for now Billy
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Andy Y 20/11/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
welcome in Mansfield anytime mike, just tell em at passport control you
know me. and dont forget to have the jabs
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mike tarling 20/11/2002
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leeds would be ok even though its even further than bloody mansfield
(sorry andy, i'll get my coat). car sharing? we need a coach or 2
surely!!
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Eddie Dwyer 19/11/2002
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Can we assume that any joint Moonstone/Ashbone-U-Wish gig would be
staged at the weekend? I see that the Blue Bishops are apparently
venturing North in January and February. Would there be any mileage in
seeing if there would be any interest in them performing at the event
also, at a late afternoon/evening event? A chance to see Martin Turner
playing live again could only add to the appeal. Any thoughts or I am
wishing for too much?
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Billy Auld 19/11/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Hi Fatio
your help would be most appreciated and that goes for anyone else who
might have contacts with venues etc.Still early days yet concerning just
exactly the best way to go with this idea. Both bands are well up for it
but know that they can't possibly please everyone geographically
speaking. They also don't want to go to a lot of expense running up and
down the country if the support is not there so we need a lot of
feedback to help make it happen and to satisfy the status quo[no not the
band!!!] We would dearly love to satisfy everyone but know that's not
possible. The north east WA fans would be very supportive so the Office
would probably be great if you could help out there Fats.Please don't
contact just yet 'til we know how things are shaping up.If it turns out
that only 1 gig is possible how would Leeds suit everyone? It is very
accessible and relatively central for most folks.We understand that
those of you who would like to get along would have a fair bit of
expense so think of ways of sharing cars etc to keep costs to a
minimum.If we go down the 3 gig route then we would like some
suggestions of good venues not necessarily in London,maybe Oxford ? that
might help fans from south west to be tempted along as well.So the
possible venues so far THE OFFICE South Shields and THE NEW ROSCOE
Leeds. Again these are just suggestions for the moment but look most
promising. Feedback would be much appreciated
Cheers Billy
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Fat.....etc, etc 19/11/2002
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FAO: Billy let me know if things are looking possible for a gig up in
the frozen north for Moonstone/Ashbone and i'll try to see if I can get
something set up at The Office. No promises, but they do show a lot of
tribute bands so they could well be interested. Just post on here or
message me on the other board.
FAO: Everybody.
Let the record state;
I HATE foxhunting!
I HATE everything to do with foxhunting!
I particularly HATE the upper class twits (for want of a better word)
that either go or support foxhunting!
Thank You.
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Fat (all man) Drummer 19/11/2002
macho@testosterone.com
Thanx Andy!
Can you not keep 'ELIZABAETH'(!) under control?
If she thinks that I talk funny, wait till you come up to the Metro
Centre....the place is full of us!!
John
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Andy Y 18/11/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
can't take yanks anywhere..... For anyone wondering... Fat appreciates
the band, not all guys....
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American Peachy 18/11/2002
elizabethclark@wishboneash.com
Fattio.....must I laugh till I cry....I just start understanding all
your accented talk about foxhunting that you love so much and you go and
throw the PAISONO talk in at me...sighhhh...great another FUNNY talking
brit to understand...guess its alright cause you have one redeeming
quality..you love the GUYS lol...ciao baby
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Mindle 18/11/2002
dmoories@aol.com
Hey Fattio,
Hows things,keep the accent I can tell what you're sayingo must be all
the psta and mediterranian salad snap you're eating
ciao Dave
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Mindle 18/11/2002
dmoories@aol.com
Billy the twin band idea's great wherever its held, there should be
enough of us to arrange transport or whatever.Thank the boys for another
great gig yesterday nice to see Bob Rand and Jan(like a mini convention,
with the gig being in the afternoon) even down to the requests "blowin
free old lad" and a bit of be bop deluxe for the metaler heads.
Daniel thinks the band are great and is pestering my life out for a
guitar and amp, it wasonly his second gig his first was ashcon.I
particularly enjoyed moonstones own stuff (check the cd out its got to
be worth 4 quid).
Hope to see AShbone up herr in the future keep the dates posted
Dave
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bobc 18/11/2002
bobc33@ntlworld.com
Hi Fats
I presume the SAFC means 'Sampdoria Athletic Football Club,' then...
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Fattio del Drummerini 18/11/2002
cosa@nostra.ita
Hey Andre mia compadré.
Don'ta letta dese idióts getta to you. Justa say da word and me'a anda
de boize will comma downa anda spilla somma chiantí.
FORZA WISHA-BONA!
FD ®
SAFC
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Luigi Genovese 16/11/2002
hitman@sicily.co.
hey guys dont upset Andy, we pay HIM protection
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Andy Yates 16/11/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
I am now starting to get a compex. FIRST its Mansfield, now we are the
Mafia... Yeah so mansfield is where the world would receive its enema,
but MAFIA? they are pussycats by our standards.
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Billy Auld 16/11/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Hi FatD
Know what you mean about the north east rockin' so maybe if we can get
enough feedback on this double header idea then we might manage to
extend it to 3 gigs,south.midlands and north.Will have to get the bands
to knock heads over it and see how,if possible this could be organised.
Watch this space.
Cheers
Billy
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FatDrummer 16/11/2002
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The Office in South Shields is a great rock venue and would be perfect
for these two bands. Okay so it's a little further north than you
midlands mafia may like, but it's fairly central for me and we all know
that the North East is the rock capital of Britain!!!!!!!
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mike tarling 15/11/2002
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andy, i didnt know you were so sensitive! i suppose i was thinking about
the journey as well as the bands getting a bit lost in a big place like
the leisure centre, but maybe something like the flowerpot in derby
would be ok? anyway looks like leicester is shaping up as a possibility.
hope this gets the support it deserves.
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Andy Yates 15/11/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
awww Mike..... Mansfield isn't THAT bad is it?
I havent seen Ashbone u wish either, I choose my words carefully and
will say I have had the PLEASURE of seeing and hearing Moonstone a few
times. The idea of Bill's is great and if I am around and help is
required... count me in. Billy, be proud. push that chest out, you got
good cause to be proud.
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Billy Auld 15/11/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Well thank goodness we've finally got a bit of activity going here.I
would like to suggest the Musician in leicester as a possible venue for
this idea as it is fairly central and easily accessible for people. i
believe it is right next to the train station as well.I have spoke with
the people there before concerning putting on another band and I liked
the sound of the place. Martin and the Blue Bishops played there
recently.What u all think? yes let's talk via email on this Alan B
cheers Billy
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Alan B 15/11/2002
as Al C
Hi Billy and Al C, by coincidence I had an email the other day from
someone suggesting a few midlands venues (mainly Birmingham) for ashbone
to play. Let's email off line to put our heads together, anyone out
there willing to help set this up?
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Alan Cottrell 15/11/2002
contact@ashboneuwish.co.uk
Hi Folks. I think a Moonstone/AshboneUWish double header would be a
brilliant idea, maybe somewhere in the Midlands as Mike suggested. We
would definitely be up for it!!!
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Eddie Dwyer 15/11/2002
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My apologies for forgetting to include Stephen Auld in my previous
posting - mea culpa.
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mike tarling 15/11/2002
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i dont like being the last person to post either but hopefully this will
be a popular topic. i have seen both bands and they are both brilliant -
lets get it on! the ideal venue would be the standard, walthamstow which
moonstone actually played at a few years ago. but i suppose a more
neutral venue might be somewhere in the midlands. dont say mansfield
leisure centre as i think a club gig would be far preferable. any other
opinions?
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Eddie Dwyer 15/11/2002
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I thought the Moonstone set was a great feature of the recent AshCon
event. It was the first time I have seen them play and along with
everyone else present, I thought their performance was as remarkable as
it was pleasurable. If you like quality live music and you like Ash
music then they are an unbeatable combination. It was not the quality of
their playing that was remarkable, as their musicianship was evident –
but rather it was their feel for music, which I found astonishing in
such a young band. I have never seen Ashbone-U-Wish but if they perform
to a similar standard, then a double billing would be a delightful
prospect and I am sure many fans would be interested in such an event.
As I understand it, Ash tribute bands are somewhat scarce in places like
the US, so maybe we should appreciate the fact that we do have bands
such as Moonstone rather than knocking them. I think Billy would be just
as keen on Moonstone, even if Chris was not involved – but as he is
justifiably proud father, why shouldn’t he blow his trumpet once in a
while. Moonstone and Billy are equally relevant in this forum. Billy, as
they say in Ireland…”take plenty of no notice!”
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Billy Auld 15/11/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Get real Andrew!!! Silly question really.Are you a father Andrew? If so
you would understand why your question is silly and if you are not then
the question still remains silly. I ofcourse am proud of my sons'
achievments as musicians as well as their academic successes but be
assured that I know a good rock band when I hear one and would in no way
try to kid myself or my sons if I thought they were not good enough to
be praised or promoted.My opinion of their abilities is shared by
many.I've never heard Ashbone-u-Wish and have no involvement with them
yet I am happy to make the suggestion of the double header gig only for
the benefit of WA fans who might like to have it happen.You may have
noticed that i have not tried to disguise the fact that i am the father
of 2 of the band members as would have been easy to do.Hope that answers
your silly question andrew.
A proud Dad....Billy
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Andrew 15/11/2002
andy440@msn.com
I wonder if Billy would be so keen on Moonstone if they weren't his
sons?
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Bobby Cameron 15/11/2002
robbie_cameron@digica.co.za
You know my suggestion already Billy so I'll just keep quiet and carry
on dreaming ... oh well I suppose it's back to the beach ... cheers
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Billy Auld 15/11/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Very quiet here,come on people I hate being the last one to post.Just a
suggestion but would anyone be up for a double header tribute night
seeing as we won't have WA here for a while? Moonstone + Ashbone-U-Wish
could work out 2 set lists that don't conflict and give us a real treat
of some material that we don't hear enough of from WA.Only thing is
where would the gig be held!!??!! Suggestions please for where + when.
Billy
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billyauld 09/11/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
congrats to graham and Anne. Name suggestions what about jay? Would be
good to see Ashbone-U- wish at Ashcon next year. Just been to Moonstone
gig in Pontefract and would like to say that Martin would be proud of
these So
ns of Argus,they really are keeping the Wishbone ash name fresh in
peoples minds.Cheers billy
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Alan Cottrell 08/11/2002
contact@ashboneuwish.co.uk
I'm sure you'll all join me in offering congratulations to Graham Smith,
singer & bassist with AshboneUWish, whose wife Anne gave birth to a
healthy baby girl on Thursday. No names have been decided yet, how about
Persephone, Graham???
PS Glad to hear Ashcon was a success, maybe see you all next year??
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Name not given 06/11/2002
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Nothing said
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billy auld 02/11/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Hi Dave, Steve and Chris say thanks for your good review of the gig last
night. Unfortunately I was on night shift so couldn't manage so missed a
good one. The dates of up coming gigs as follows...Fri 8/11/02 Golden
Lion,Pontefract,Sun 17/11/02 Boot+Shoe,Ackworth 4.00pm afternoon gig. A
return gig at the Crimea Tavern will be confirmed soon looks like will
be before end Nov look out for posting and local press. One other gig
just confirmed at the Macintosh Arms Aire St Goole March 13th 2003.
Would be nice to see some folks there from the WA forums etc. cheers for
now Billy
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dave moore 02/11/2002
dmoories@aol.com
I managed to catch moonstone at the crimea in castleford last night,
apart from the sets at ashcons it’s the 1st time I’ve seen a full set.
The audience was typical of a general rock venue, the music prior to the
gig being the standard Led Zep, Bad co etc.
The gig consisted of a 2 ¼ hour set with a 20min break in the middle,
good value by any standards never mind a free gig.
The 1st half of the show consisted more or less of the set played at
ashcon the second with a few more classic argus tracks and some recently
neglected material dream train and where were you tomorrow coming across
strongest.
I think most of the crowd recognised blowing free and some of the other
argus stuff but the band did a great job pulling the audience round with
the classic twin guitar,bass harmonies and duels played brilliantly,
decent enough vocals (the house pa sounded a bit dodgy) a tight rhythm
section augmented by (on some songs) an incisive keyboard rhythm and at
times lead saxophone. Indeed it’s the first time I’ve heard the intro to
sometime world played on sax, the solo on strange affair being
particularly impressive.
This band really know their stuff and play the classics with a feeling
and energy sometimes lost in “tribute bands”, their tribute because of
the inclusion of the keyboard/sax is more a tribute to the music rather
than just an ability to copy WA.
All in all a great gig and if you get chance get along to see these guys
you won’t be disappointed, it was nice to hear that through moonstone
half the crowd will be surfing the ash sites and checking the cd racks.
Just an observation not a criticism when moonstone played their own
material it went down as well as the ash numbers, I’d like to see more
of their own stuff in the set.
If Chris or Mark are out there post the gig address in Pontefract next
Friday.
ASHCON SOS.
Mark was telling me that the photos they took at Ashcon haven’t turned
out can you help by posting/mailing any you have.
Dave Moore
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billy auld 01/11/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
nice posting Eddie-andy Yates is already looking for suggestions for
next ASHCON so fire away at him any ideas. I would like to see a jam
session for guitarists and an audience selection for 1 or 2 maybe to get
the chance during the afternoon acoustic session to join the band on
stage for a song or two as well.The players could be selected from an
early upstairs open floor spot.Vocals have always been a bone of
contention with the Bones so howzabout a few singers having a go as well
and again maybe get the chance to join the band!!??!!.So come on all you
bedroom players and singers get practicing!! Billy
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Eddie Dwyer 01/11/2002
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AshCon 2002 has been and gone – many thanks to the organisers and
volunteers for putting together a great day. I took my brother along to
the event (he was a long, long dormant Ash fan) and he was knocked out
at how friendly and communicative the fans and the band were.
In the afternoon we picked up some hard to find CD’s, really liked
Moonstone’s warm up set (Chris Auld and the boys can certainly play) and
really enjoyed the brief Ash acoustic set. Guy Roberts treated us to
some “tasters” of long lost tape recordings of Ash session from years
gone by, some material from which might be released.
In the evening, I cannot say that I enjoyed the Illumunida set at all
but the extended Ash performance later capped a truly enjoyable day. To
be honest, I thought that Ash looked a little tired to begin with but I
guess this was inevitable at the end of a very busy bout of touring.
However the great audience feedback fired them up pretty quickly and
they finished stronger than ever. Bob Skeat again caught the eye and
makes it look so easy and effortless. He looks as if he has always been
there.
Andy Powell said that the concert was being recorded so hopefully it
will eventually make it to CD. Perhaps someone in the know can advise on
when this is likely to be? Lastly, what would the possibility and
people’s views to the suggestion of an extended acoustic set as the
major feature at the next AshCon event?
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Jan Frankland 01/11/2002
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I would just like to say how much I enjoyed Mansfield on Saturday!
Highlight of the evening....being kissed by Bob!!! Keep up the good
work!
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Her magesty's prison service 31/10/2002
HMP
saw the word PAROLE - You blew the cover, I know its Steve lord using a
pseudonym
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musmad muslikh 31/10/2002
musmad_muslikh
je cherche la parole et musique "Everybody needs a friend", I need some
help
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Andy Yates 31/10/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
hey.. compliment the production team for that one, we put him on the
door so his belly would reduce the space at the doorway and help us
avoid a rush... well actually.... avoid anyone over 8 stone getting
through the door past him....
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FatDrummer 31/10/2002
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SO DID I!
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Bob C 30/10/2002
bobc33@ntlworld.com
The band were certainly on fire at Mansfield. We have seen great
performances at The Brook last couple of tours, and Ashcon was an
extremely impressive extension of that. As Fat says, let's hope he is
not tempting fate. We could do with these guys around for a good while
yet!
(And by the way, I thought the guy on the door during the autograph
sessions was a diamond geezer)!
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FatDrummer 30/10/2002
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To those that couldn't make it to Ashcon 2002....a GREAT day was had by
all and believe me...you missed the lads in top form.
I haven't seen the band play with so much fire and passion for many,
many years.
I'm probably tempting fate here, but I really feel that the stock of WA
is at it's highest since the mk 2 line-up.
REJOICE!
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Andy Yates 30/10/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
now but words my in will the be order right.....
billy auld 30/10/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Thanx Dave
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Billy
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Andy Yates 29/10/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
TWO pionts of interest in the aftermath of AshCon
1. The boxed we used to collect for the Air Ambulance Service, raised
£65.52, congratulations for that.
2. You drank the bar dry by 9.30pm. a great feat by any standards.
213.105.82.188
dave 29/10/2002
dave.patrick@wellstudio.co.uk
Hope that Ashcon was good. As usual, I had some slack excuse for not
being there. Actually, I forgot - hopeless.
Dave 29/10/2002
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Hi guys and gals, just wanted to let you know that I've managed to fix
that (annoying!) little bug in the forum when you use a new line in your
message.
Please feel free to use:
new lines
in
your
message!
Alan Fretten 29/10/2002
alan.fretten@btinternet.com
Great day out at Ashcon. Check out the pictures at www.gillyworld.co.uk/wishboneash/wishbone.htm
Fred Schumann 28/10/2002
aljoschu@hotmail.com
Hope Ash come soon for the next Germany-Tour! Thanks
Fred
Andy Yates 27/10/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
a quick thanks to all involved in AshCon. I hope it was enjoyed, I will
post a full run down as son as my spell checker is done with it.
Peachy 26/10/2002
raggedyann@ntlworld.com
Just wanted to say that I just took a break from Ashcon festivites and
will be going back a little later..the afternoon session went
great...Moonstone group good and the guys from WA and Illuminada (sorry;
and gal) arrived safe and in great form..as I type Illuminada whose
drummer is Andy Powells son as I am sure you all know, is playing as
support and shortly WA will be doing their thing as only they
can....just a small update for all...am sure Andy and Guy along with all
others will update you more thoroughly...be safe
Rich T. 26/10/2002
rtomas@go2.pl
Hi guys, I would only like to mention that not all in this forum are
your fellow-citizens, quite a number of us are foreigners, who can't
make it to Ashcon because of various reasons. So keep us posted please,
I for one, would like to read a kind of extensive report on tonight's
(or tomorrow?)event, so have this in mind, please. And have a hell of a
time!!!!
Guy Roberts 25/10/2002
guyroberts@wishboneash.com
Yeah Andy! We got there in the end didn't we. Everything that the
fanclub hoped to put on is now in place. All you need to do now is enjoy
the day......me I'll be trying to keep Andy's blood pressure down...see
you all there.
Andy Yates 25/10/2002
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I just wanted to say I am not going to be on line much for the next 48
hours, a big THANKS to all those who helped & sent messages of support
and are helping tomorrow. Without the support and assistance of all
fans, AshCon would be a non-event. Those who are coming, be safe on the
journey, and please let me know afterwards what is good/bad/indifferent.
Feedback is important. TICKETS will still be available on the door, the
venue is being configured to acept about 900 people so space wil not be
an issue this year. I'll try and post something on Sunday morning UK
time. Thanks again. Andy Yates
Rich Davenport 25/10/2002
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Hi all Hope you all have a great time at AshCon. Just to let you know
that an interview I did with Andy Powell is going to be published soon
in a magazine called "Fireworks". Andy covers a whole range of topics,
ranging from what it's like to be in the Ash in the 21st century in
comparison with days gone by, the new album, "Argus", etc. "Fireworks"
is worth a shufty if you're into Classic / Meloduc Rock in general. You
can get it from certain independant record shops, Virgin Megastores, or
from www.rathole.com . There's also a review of "Bona Fide", and an
interview with Runrig, who are well worth a listen if you like
Celtic-influenced rock - "The Stamping Ground", their newie, is a
cracker! Cheers! Rich
Andy Yates 24/10/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
LEON, not len.
Andy Yates 24/10/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
Billy, its been thought of. a few technical problems with it. I want to
do it one year, preferably when len gets over to handle it all. I am an
oldie remember (tho not as ancient as some). Its too late for this year
but certainly a wish for a future AshCon
Billy Auld 24/10/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Just for the record and NOT by way of reply to the last foul mouthed
rantings. I've known Gary Carter for a few years now and would like to
say here that Gary is one of the most intelligent people I know. He was
a postman when I met him and I said to him at the time that his
journalistic skills enhanced with his amazing power of recall would be
better put to use in journalism. I still think that and feel that Gary
would make an excellent journalist. The gift that Gary has belies any
foolish,ignorant nonsense that he of four letter vocabulary spews
out.There are many ways to gain an education and you only need to open
your eyes and ears to understand that letters after your name don't mean
you are intelligent or more able than the next man. Billy Auld
Billy Auld 24/10/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Hi Bobby et all, getting a bit cryptic around here seems a trap is being
sprung!!! Now let's talk WA. Andy I've just had a thought for ASHCON.
How realistic would it be to have a screen relaying fans best wishes
through the forums etc? especially for the Q+A section.Maybe a laptop
linked to screen? Or would this be the straw to break your back? Billy
Will 24/10/2002
will14@hotmail.com
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bob c 23/10/2002
bobc33@ntlworld.com
Gary, no probs about the hair at least, despite a few silver
'highlights'! As regards the photo, I have not yet come across a camera
strong enough for me! And Billy, the bar needs to be well-stocked and
well subsidised.....
Gary Sawyer 23/10/2002
gary@madrid.com
Well Billy, if the forum folk do meet up, be sure to get someone to take
a photo - I want to see how many of you old folk have still got your own
hair & teeth!
Billy Auld 23/10/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Hi Gary, I'll be coming off night shift on the morning of the convention
so the day will probably become a blur by about 5.00pm 'til closing
time. Anyone who expects to get any sense out of me would be well
advised to speak to me as early as possible! as for M.C'ing the day I
think I'll have to pre-record and get a cardboard cut out stood at the
mic. OK'before you all say it " who'd notice the difference anyway!!!" I
will probably have to get a nap in the car before the night gigs. I will
ofcourse avoid any lock in situations!!! Really looking forward to
seeing moonstone and Iluminada playing as well. Just a thought while I'm
here,why don't we have a Forum Folk meeting place and have everyone who
posts on the forums wear their names so we can meet up for a laugh,hows
about the upstairs bar ALL DAY!!! cheers fur noo Billy
Gary Sawyer 23/10/2002
gary@madrid.com
Bobby, I've no idea what the fool said, but I do know I'm getting sick
of tossers like him posting on this message board - I visit here to have
a laugh with Billy, Andy, Mike, yourself etc etc - not read the crap
posted by bitter individuals with an axe to grind.
Gary Sawyer 23/10/2002
gary@madrid.com
Andy, that might swing it, but I've heard Mr Owen's personal appearance
fees are way beyond the Ashcon budget. Although I suppose he might do it
for free if we show him a picture of Billy and say it would make an old
man very happy! (only joking Mr Auld!)
Bobby Cameron 23/10/2002
robbie_cameron@digica.co.za
Well guys at least he knows who he is and he's quite touchy ... steady
on there Gary, Andy, Billy, Bob, Gary ... just leave him ...
Will 23/10/2002
will14@hotmail.com
post removed - abusive nature/incorrect information
Andy Yates 23/10/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
so an announcement of Michael Owen being special guest on third guitar
cannot draw you to us huh? OK we'll scratch that idea.
bob c 22/10/2002
bobc33@ntlworld.com
I dunno, Gary, 3-1 in Moscow ain't that bad... But you're right, Bobby's
got the edge on you, mate!
Gary Sawyer 22/10/2002
gary@madrid.com
Well Boby, Given Liverpool's current form I can safely say you'll
probably be having a better time than me! ;-)
Bobby Cameron 22/10/2002
robbie_cameron@digica.co.za
Well it seems as if Andy is doing his level best to take care of
everyone who is attending Ashcon this year! Unfortunately prior
commitments (I will be getting pissed and thinking of you all) mean I
cannot attend this year, but I look forward to hearing about it from you
all. Hope everyone has a great time.
Gary Sawyer 22/10/2002
gary@madrid.com
Well it seems as if Andy is doing his level best to take care of
everyone who is attending Ashcon this year! Unfortunately prior
commitments (Liverpool v Tottenham) mean I cannot attend this year, but
I look forward to hearing about it from you all. Hope everyone has a
great time.
Andy Yates 22/10/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
Apologies for using the forum but need to spread information. I am
getting mails and calls for decent taxi services in Mansfield, for those
without transport. ACE/ABC taxis 01623 654321 Five 2's - 01623 622222 If
there is a shortage of taxi's a good friend who drived for ACE/ABC his
mobile - 07947 305288. mention I gave the number and you jump the
bookings queue, he'll come for you
Andy Yates 21/10/2002
andyyates@wishboneash.com
I guess 99.9% agree with the "ignore the prats" approach. and tho he is
way to modest to say it BILLY sugested it weeks ago. Its a good plan.
Now to AshCon (5 days to go and counting. I am getting phone calls and
emails asking if tickets will be available on the door, the answer YES,
just mail me and I'll make sure people get in. Also, its a Family event,
has to be now we are all getting old, and any kids under 14 are FREE. A
Cafe and bar and coffee facility is available on site, so dont go
worrying about those things, We havent progressed to a cresh yet but
maybe next time if needed. Mail for tickets to be available and SEE YOU
NEXT SATURDAY. Anyone requiring special assistance, wheelchair access
etc... let me know and I will make arrangements.
FatDrummer 20/10/2002
No E-mail given
I agree with the 'ignore the prat' line, but it's when they start using
nom de plumes that people will start to lose interest for fear (or
annoyance) at their name being used by somebody else.
Lee Van Streem 20/10/2002
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agree, the general idea should be to TOTALLY ignore any prats who appear
here - no replies, rebukes of any sort without exception. Those who join
in are as bad as those who start the trouble.
mike tarling 20/10/2002
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i would not object to signing up, but no doubt a lot of people would so
i reckon we should try and keep things as they are. some people just
like to look at the messages without posting. the problem is with a very
small minority (1?). i think we should just say "ok will, point taken"
and leave it at that
Dave Hodges 20/10/2002
No E-mail given
Gary, please dont introduce a sign up system. There are enough of these
forums on the net already. I for one dont like submitting my e-mail
address unless necessary and I believe that should remain an individuals
right. This forum is special because of its 'open to all' stance, so why
change things just because of one or two trouble maker - you get them in
any walk of life. There was a nasty fight at my local Friday night, but
I don't see the landlord shutting up shop or introducing a membership
system. This forum is just great as it is. Ignore the idiots and as gary
says they will go away when they know their only talking to themselves
Laurie Lye 20/10/2002
No E-mail given
Sing out the song bro, sing it loud n' clear!!!
Gary Carter 19/10/2002
wishboneashukonline@hotmail.com
Gary S/Andy Y - I can appreciate your point re: introducing a registered
users system, and would be interested to hear what others have to say.
One point to bear in mind is that there are really two different types
of postings which appear here 1) those from the "regular" group of
posters, who wish to engage in interactive discussion, etc, and 2) those
who just simply want to leave a brief one off message to say "great
site", "shite site" or "enjoyed the show last night", etc. (actually
there seems to be a third element who's only motive is to disrupt, but
that's another story...). I do feel that by introducing a sign up system
it will put the "one off" posters off of contributing, which would be a
shame - after all, not everyone wants to "join" a "club" and, as I said,
I can respect some peoples desire to keep their e-mail private to avoid
spam (eg. junk mail, not the ex-WA vocalist!). I know a lot of people
seem to enjoy the spontenaity and less regimented feel of the "free
forum" approach. But...I would be interested to hear what regular users
of this forum feel. For the time being I will be monitoring the
guestbook on a more regular basis and anything corruptive in future will
be immediately removed. Obviously there is a fine line between what is
acceptable and what isn't and I guess I have to be the judge of that,
although I do not like to censor. I believe the following guideline is
fair - discussion on the band's music is fine; debate, constructive
criticism, even the airing of gripes or controversial opinions is also
fine, so long as it is carried out in a civil and adult manner and meant
with the best of intentions. However, name calling, foul language, abuse
at other individuals or anything malicious is not acceptable. As I've
stated before, if anything corruptive DOES appear before I have chance
do remove it, it would be in everybody's interest to ignore it and not
allow these people to lower the tone of our forum. Let's beat them, not
join them...
Billy Auld 19/10/2002
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Looking back at some of the comments regarding Ben's playing. There's no
doubt that Ben was going to bring something different to the band's
sound and I for one thought that it was a brilliant link up. However I
may be wrong but I feel Ben has been trying to adapt too much and has
lost a wee bit of his own dynamic style. I hope he has'nt felt pressured
to try to follow a format that does'nt suit him.Personally I would
prefer Ben and Andy and Bob and Ray to get away from the shuffling
boogie groove and experiment more and Ben would be the best exponent of
this. Who thinx what ??? Billy
Gary Sawyer 19/10/2002
gary@madrid.com
Gary C - on other forums (including the official one at wishboneash.com)
there is a system where users have to register their name and email
address before posting - is there any chance of such a system here? I'm
not suggesting that the message board become an exclusive 'club', but it
would possibly help to keep the morons out
will 19/10/2002
will@errorsofmyways.com
I now realise that I have been very stupid in what I have been doing
here.I have allowed a gripe i have with someone to cloud my thinking and
should have known better than to take it out on people here who are
simply enjoying a harmless pastime. I promise not to do it again and
when I get my head straight I will again join the forum as my old
self,again so sorry everyone. Sincerely Myself
Gary Carter 19/10/2002
wishboneashukonline@hotmail.com
OK folks, it has been brought to our attention that someone with a
strange sense of humour (actually, not even that since it is not even
funny!)is posting comments here using other peoples names/e-mails. We
have no problem with people posting under nicknames or other such
monikers should they wish to protect their identity (some of these names
are actually quite clever), so long as the content and nature of the
post is in keeping with the general spirit of this forum. We will not,
however, accept people using other contributors names and e-mails to air
their mindless and abusive ramblings. As such a | 
