Archive Postings: October 2003 - July 2004
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Gordon 01/10/2003
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Bob C - What did David die from?
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Brian W. 01/10/2003
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Gordon, David Byron died of a heart attack in Feb. 1985 following years
of severe alcoholism. Bob C., I agree with you. Byron is sorely missed.
Any fan of David Lee Roth or Freddie Mercury need only to see one Uriah
Heep show (between 1970 and 1976) to see where they got their stage
personas from. There is an exciting new book called "David Byron - Born
to Perform" due for release this month in UK. It was written by Jeff
Perkins and it looks to be an excellent read.
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Jon Moorehead 01/10/2003
MOJOSMOKE@aol.com
Wow, I remember Automatic Man! I din't think anyone remembered them. Ex
Santana drummer Michael Shrieve was in that band. Micheal and I were in
a loose project together, years before Blue Law, that unfortunately
never made it past the planning stage. Great drummer. Does anyone
remember his project called Transfer Station Blue? How about Novo Combo?
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Dave 02/10/2003
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I remember being a regular at JBs Dudley many years ago and seeing
Ultravox fronted by John Foxx. The support band that night had just
arrived from Ireland that afternoon. I think the name was U2 whatever
happened to them ???
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Matty 02/10/2003
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Anyone remember these bands from the 70s..?
Banco (Italian)
P.F.M. (Italian)
Starcastle (?)
Kayak (Dutch)
Grobbshnitt (German)
They all mastered the 9/8 time signature and could play in the key of C#
I recall.
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Gary 02/10/2003
gs@bradfordcityfc.cjb.net
Matty, I'm quite a fan of Starcastle, as they featured Terry Luttrell
(formerly of REO Speedwagon) on vocals.
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Rich T 02/10/2003
rtomas@go2.pl
Kayak, yes, I've heard them several times. P.F.M (= Marconi's Awarded
Bakery?) was it them who cut the LP "Pictures of ghosts"? I kind of
liked it, even taped it on my oooold tape player. How about Amon Duul
(German) and Refugee with Patrick Moraz on keybords (later Yes)/
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bob c 02/10/2003
bobc33@ntlworld.com
Rich T:
PFM (Premiata Forneria Marconi - not that I knew that at the time!)were
still doing it at least up to last year - there is a live album out,
apparently. I well remember 'Photos of Ghosts'. John Peel played that
quite a lot and it was kind of quite good.
But hey, WA spring tour is upon us Brits, so let's get goin'!
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billyauld 03/10/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Autumn tour bob where you been for 6 months
Billy
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bob c 03/10/2003
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OK Billy
Can't help being a bombed-out old sod! It FEELS like springtime when Ash
are on tour, OK? Wonder how the boys got on tonite in rural Dorsetshire?
Reports here please...
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REDKING 04/10/2003
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WANTED: CDR Copy of 'Number the brave', japan import.
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andy yates 04/10/2003
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number the brave is shown as available at www.amazon.co.uk @ £16.99 and
dispatched within 1/2 weeks of order. Catalogue Number: UICY9092
in fact amazon show 102 items available
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Alan Bloor 05/10/2003
alanbloor@hotmail.com
I posted a review of the Leicester gig on the .com site this morning,
but the forum seems to be down at the moment so here is a summary for
people here:
Set list - every song from Argus except "Leaf & Stream", Almighty Blues,
FHL & Changing Tracks from Bona Fide, Wait up the Storm from
Illuminations, Blind Eye, Phoenix, Living Proof, Jailbait & Ballad of
The Beacon. Two hours in all, excellent show, Ben especially on top form
- lots of embellishments added to the songs to make them less familiar.
Recommend seeing them if you can.
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Jack Rose 05/10/2003
jacke.rose@ntlworld.com
I have just found this website and have found it very interesting
reading. i have been following Wishbone since 1972, seen them live as
often as i can and thoroughly enjoyed whitchever line up was playing.My
children female 24 and son 19 were both brought up on Wishbone and we
are going to the Brook gig at the end of the month. How lucky we are
that Andy keeps going and giving us all this fantastic music because
throughout all the great line ups there has always been Mr Powell. keep
on rockin Andy, and thanks to all the people behind the scenes helping
to keep this great music alive.
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bob c 05/10/2003
bobc33@ntlworld.com
See ya there, Jack! Can't wait...
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David Tares 06/10/2003
david@tares1.freeserve.co.uk
Hi its great to see the band on the road once more.
I would be gratefull if anyone travelling to any of the bands 3 gigs in
Scotland later this week would be kind enough to offer me a lift please
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Name not given 06/10/2003
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With regards to my previous message about a lift to the gigs this week
please email me or telephone me on 01382880505 or my Mobile No. which is
07950749814
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ray faulder 07/10/2003
guitarman1129429@aol.com
Can anyone advise where the band are playing tomorrow Wednesday
08/10/03, Supposed to be Newcastle Opera House, but local press says
some small hotel in Tynemouth ????
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Derek Randall 08/10/2003
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You should be sent directly to jail for 'Locked In' but sent to Heaven
for 'Argus'.
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FatDrummer 08/10/2003
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RAY:
Yes it is The Park Hotel in Tynemouth. Got gazumped by Elvis 'bleedin'
Costello at The Opera House. Not the bands fault....blame lays with the
promoter (now, there's a misnomer!).
They've played there before...ain't been myself but I think that it's a
fair size.
You Goin?
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Barry 08/10/2003
barrymknight@hotmail.com
I saw WA for the first time at Leicester. I am only 24 but my dad is a
massive and I had to endure his music, as children do. I had several
weeks of him telling me that they would "blow me away". They did. I
stood right at the front against the stage and have to say that they
were the best band I have ever seen live. Can't wait to see them again
(and drag the girlfriend along next time).
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stumper 09/10/2003
behindthe pegs@mcc
Hey Rags good to hear from you. Hope you enjoyed the season in the dccl
with me and Chris....give locked in another go it has it's moments.
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Mike 09/10/2003
mikerule@hotmail.com
Locked In highlights for me = Rest in Peace - its really a good song all
round!, the guitarwork in Moonshine, Half Past Loving is a catchy one
and I really like the talking guitar thing from Andy and finally Say
Goodbye overall is a really nice song! MOST of the material is great but
the sound leaves a little to be desired. I agree with u Stumper - give
it another go!!!
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David Atkinson 09/10/2003
DaveAtkinson@ukgateway.net
Went to the gig at Tynemouth last night. Shiver down the spine stuff
from start to finish as a flood of memories came back. From the opening
bars of King Will Come to the final song simply flew by.
Great stuff, cant wait for the next time your back in the area.
Ps What’s with the seymore duncans in the V? It always sounded mint the
way it was anyway!
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GODGE 10/10/2003
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Great gig at Tynemouth.I'm lucky enough to be gong to see the boys again
at Liverpool.On the gig section of this wesite it shows they are playing
at Whitby in November but on .com its shows Barnsley .Which is right can
anyone tell me.Whitby would be good.Next time can't come quick enough.
Ps New dvd is great.But shame about the bonus disc,i've already got it
on dvd,mmmmm?
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flying_seaman 10/10/2003
peter@longdon.co.uk
Sorry, Godge, it would appear that the gig at Whitby has been cancelled,
to be replaced by Barnsley Trades Club (got the tickets!) Which is great
for me and my mate Steve, but not so great for you ,as it's about 90
miles further on....sorry again, marra.
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Billy Auld 12/10/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
This one's for Dee.
I've just come home from the Blue Bishops gig which was in a village
about 5 miles from where I live. Martin was in great form although a
little tired but always the true professional he delivered the goods as
only he could.The Bishops are a very good outfit with many great
elements to them,way above an average blues rock band.They set out their
stall to give you honest ,straight forward rockin' blues and don't
disappoint! Wishbone Ash it's not but as Martin said it has the energy
and edge that Wishbone portrayed in the early days. So, just to make Dee
green with envy we sat right under Martin's nose and spent some time
chatting with him during the interval and after the gig. I still find it
incredible that this guy was actually playing in the village next to
where I live to an audience of only about 70 people!!!???!!! Don't
people understand the contribution this man has made to British rock,He
obviously doesn't either. The sooner Martin gets his butt in gear the
better! Wether it's with Wishbone Ash or a whole new set up Martin is
too great a talent to be playing in this kind of situation,he DESERVES
better!He owes it to himself to be more creative. I admire and respect
Martin so much that it hurts to see him not getting the recognition and
respect that he deserves.Just talking to him makes you aware that this
man has a depth of knowledge, ability and awareness in music that very
few have.It was a real priviledge to speak with him tonight in a very
relaxed and informal situation,just wish we could have spoken longer.I
mentioned to him that on the .com site someone mentioned the notion that
maybe Locked In could be reworked the way that Wishbone and the material
would be better presented and he went on to describe the difficult
circumstances surrounding the recording and how he came to hate
everything about the album from the perspective but I feel like many
fans that the material should and could be reworked to what it should
have been in the first place.Having said that I think Locked in gets a
worse press than it deserves. Anyway time for bed.
Billy
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Iñaki A. 12/10/2003
pikotto@hotmail.com
Happy birthday Mart!!...eleven days after....
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Dave Moore 12/10/2003
dmoories@aol.com
Billy,got to agree with the sentiments in your posting, although it was
great to talk to Mart about both his current projects and the past in
particular the background to locked in what I would really like to see
is the creative musician back doing what he does best.
Its the 3rd time I've seen the blue bishops and thy're well worth the
time and money.A bit dissapointing more ash fans weren't there,my
feelings are just that all the wa family past and present deserve my
support for the pleasure they've given me over the years.Wether its
supporting the current line up or members past the musical heritage I've
been given by these guys just makes time stand still.
Billy see you in Rotherham, Dee you've got to get over here or get the
buishops across the pond.
Dave Moore
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Dee 12/10/2003
firesign@ptd.net
Billy and Dave, I love you guys!!! Billy, you are right, I am so
jealous, you just lived my dream. What I wouldn't give to have been in
your shoes. I have thought seriously about making a trip to England so
that I could see Martin play in person, but then my husband's 2
preschool grandkids had to come and live with us and life changed pretty
quick! I e-mailed Simon Burrett (Blue Bishops) and his wife Sue a year
or so ago about the possibility of them coming to play some blues
festivals in the US, but that's leaving things to chance. When will
Martin play his last show? When will my last chance have passed me by? I
hate to think of it. I think I'll have to come over there. I couldn't
agree with you more about Martin and his contribution to music, and how
much it's meant to me personally. I would love to see the Blue Bishops
or hear another project similar to "Reeperbahn". I would love to see
Martin get something together where he could be the principal
songwriter. I think he still has a lot to say musically; and I would
love to hear what he has to say about the past 10 years of his life's
experiences. I don't believe that ideas have dried up on him; he still
must carry a little book around with him to write lyrics in! Do ideas
really dry up for the man who writes songs like "Life Line" and "New
Rising Star"? I love nothing better than turning on music friends to WA,
in particular bass players to Martin. He's like a secret hidden gem that
I pull out and share with others. As for "Locked In" it does have "Say
Goodbye" which is an all-time favorite. It sounds like you had a great
time, Billy. Thanks for sharing, and thanks for thinking of me.
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Brian W. 13/10/2003
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Fantastic posts, Billy, Dave and Dee! I agree with all comments except
those concerning Locked In. I like that album a lot and listen to it
quite often. I also like funky mid-70's stuff and that album fits right
in. Its unusual in comparison to WA's other material but to me, Rest in
Peace, Say Goodbye, Moonshine, etc are great tunes. Only "She Was My
Best Friend", with its atrocious vocals, disappoints. I'd still love to
see Martin Turner and Laurie Wisefield put something together. They are
both sorely missed on today's music scene.
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David Eckler 13/10/2003
capnsensible69@aol.com
Regarding my post of July 29, 2003 - I made a major blunder in
explaining a mistake Ted made on the 20th Anniversary Concert DVD.
Having gone back to listen again, I realise that he was sharp on the
last signature, not flat. When I made the post I wasn't able to check
the DVD, and memory failed me. So here I am, in embarassment, admiting
my mistake. Long live Ash!
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Gordon Miller 13/10/2003
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David, Mistakes will not be tolerated here in the Wishbone world! And
while I'm at it, who made that flub during the intro of TDTS on Live
Dates??
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billy auld 14/10/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Regarding Brian W's comments on Locked in. I really came to appreciate
the material on the album when my sons started playing loads of WA
stuff. Locked in is actually one of our Chris's favourite Ash albums he
played it ove and over and over. I agree about the weak vocals on "She
was my best friend" but I think its a marvelous song,very moody and
seems to indicate a very personal situation for the writer.I suppose
it's one of these songs that lets you inside someones head if you know
what i mean. If ever you want to hear some good live renditions of
Locked in material catch Moonstone sometime.
Billy
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Rahul 14/10/2003
rahul.shrivastava@bbc.co.uk
Hi guys! Hope this is the right place to mention this. Last week I did a
gig review and interview with Andy Powell. You can read it here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/music/2003/10/wishbone_ash_interview.shtml
There is also the chance to win a signed Bona Fide CD though this is
only open to UK residents I'm afraid.
Hope you enjoy it, and if there are any mistakes, then let me have them!
Best regards,
Rahul
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Chris 14/10/2003
chrisauld@yahoo.com
Hi guys!
Just to disagree for a moment........ I think that Martin's vocals on
'she was my best friend' are great. It is not what you would normally
call a 'great vocal sound', but then again some of these old blues
guitar players have rubbish sounds, its about how you play or how you
sing in this case.
The sound and sentiment of the overall song is quite fragile, as is
Martin's vocal, but the passion and 'feel' with which he sings the song
is really lovely.
Gordon, if Andy was playing the low harmony back then as he does now,
then it was Ted who made the little mistake.
Thanks for the plug dad-although we dont actually do any from locked in,
I just keep saying that we should, and John if you're reading this-we
should!
Chris
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Eddie Dwyer 14/10/2003
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Good on you Brian W & Billy Auld, for your comments on Locked In. I am
sure there must have been a “Bluffers Guide” to WA published at some
time, that was less than complementary about Locked In and since then it
has been the fashion to knock it – in my view unfairly. At this time of
year, I cannot help but play one of my favourites, New England. (also
Locked In). I was lucky enough to spend a week a few years ago
travelling around New England in the Fall when the trees were turning
(one of the loveliest places I have been), and you can see where they
got there inspiration from. I remember crossing a covered wooden bridge
in Connecticut that spanned the Connecticut River (Fred would you or
someone know where this is?). Great times and great music! This set me
thinking. There is so much WA material that I really, really like and I
guess has never ever been played at one of their concerts. Is a high
percentage of their set list of the WA material from the pre Bona Fide
era repeated tour after tour? I am no great shakes at statistics but it
would seem to me that this might be the case? Please don’t beat me up on
this one, as I like nearly all their material and I cannot wait to see
WA again next week – but there is some great less played material that I
would really love to hear live. If WA played a radically different set
list on their schedule next year, would this stop people going to the
concerts? I somehow do not think so. Is it too much effort for the band
to learn and rehearse different material? I would love to see WA or
Moonstone/A-U-Wish do some of the other material. What do other people
think?
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Billy Auld 14/10/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Eddie what about Martin Turner doing what he said he would like to do
getting a band together and doing the stuff that doesn't get aired
enough???
Billy
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Mike Spooner 15/10/2003
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Eddie - saw WA on Monday night, and the biggest moment of the night was
when they brought FUBB out of the old war-chest. Fabulous rendition from
Andy & Ben, although Bob plodded along in what should have been his
moment to shine. MT he isn't. I'm all for the alternative band with MT &
co. For the current line-up, it's time to change the setlist as the look
of relief on peoples' faces when FUBB began was amazing.
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Fred R 15/10/2003
fr21555@aol.com
Eddie, I have to agree with your comments on New England, also a
favorite of mine...maybe my most fave WA album. Locked In did get short
shrift here in the USA when it came out. I think it was due in part to
the fact Tom Dowd had produced some hits with the Allmans and Clapton t
and an expectation level had been set way to high by many in the music
press and fans alike. It was also a major gear change from There's the
Rub's songwriting. The production tried to make WA into something like a
Lynyrd Skynyrd (another Dowd band)and took all the British sound away
from what could have been a great album. As far as that covered bridge
you mentioned, it could have been one of the many along the CT and
Vermont border. My guess is perhaps the Cornish bridge in New Hampshire?
The leaves are in full color right now and it's my favorite time of the
year here. I love taking the Harley out and finding some back roads to
wind through. It's funny, I find England feels so much like home when I
go there. This region is indeed well named "New England". Biggest
differences are we can't play soccer and our beer sucks.
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Brian W. 15/10/2003
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I was wondering why the song Number the Brave never did much. It was one
of the saving graces on the album of the same name. When I listen to
this album now (I've added the non-LP B-side, My mind is Made Up to the
CD for the car) and its not a bad album despite the loss of MT. Still,
the title track will always be the best song on there for me. I would
like to see that added to the set as its a really rousing tune that
might get the crowd going.
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Gary S 15/10/2003
gs@bradfordcityfc.cjb.net
I'm not the type of person who does reviews as such, so suffice to
say, last night in Liverpool was a fantastic gig, and the first time I'd
seen the
current line-up. The setlist was nice & varied, with 'Standing In The
Rain' and 'FUBB' being the standout tracks for me. A nice age-range
was in attendance ranging from young kids, through to the
twentysomethings (like myself & my wife) and onto the old-timers!
Speaking of old-timers, it was a very great pleasure & privilege to
meet Alan Pye, a name I've known since 1991 due to his letters to
Gary C's fanclub magazines. It was great to share a few beers with Alan,
and Tanya & I
hope to see him again at the next Liverpool gig.
It was also good to meet the band after the show, as they came out to
sign autographs & say hello. Had a nice chat with Ray Weston who
commented that the band all get on really well together - although he
was at pains to point out they don't sleep together! Andy did say the
band would be back in Liverpool in April. Can't wait!
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Mike Spooner 15/10/2003
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Gary - If they play the Pacific Road Arts Centre in birkenhead in April
then you've got to be there. Saw them there this April and it was
awesome (band favourit too because of the incredible atmosphere there)
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Gary S 16/10/2003
gs@bradfordcityfc.cjb.net
Mike - When I was having a chat with Ben, he did say that the Pacific
was a venue favoured by the band. When questioned about the Cavern, he
said it was a bit small, which i'd agree with, given Wishbone's sizeable
following in the North West. I never normally used to miss a tour, but
work and other commitments have got in the way, the past couple of
times. I can safely say that I've no intention of missing any more
tours, particularly now Ben is in the band........surely the best
Wishbone guitarist since Ted left in 1993!
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MagnusT 16/10/2003
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It's no point to say
that a guitarist is better than an other guitarist. If BG can give half
so mush energy and ideas to W.A as LW did it's Great. Goodbuy Baby Hello
Friend has L.W done.
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FatDrummer 17/10/2003
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Mike Spooner wrote:
"For the current line-up, it's time to change the setlist as the look of
relief on peoples' faces when FUBB began was amazing."
This thread, as you know, is doing the rounds on the .com board. Whilst
I agree that this tours set list is too heavy in favour of Argus, songs
like Wait Out The Storm and Standing In The Rain were given a debut or
were brought out for the first time in an age. Over the past few tours
i've heard plenty of variations of the set-list while still playing the
'known' songs for people that might be first timers or seeing the band
for the first time in years. These people CANNOT be ignored and the more
rabid of us will have to live with it. As long as the set has new or
re-introduced songs each tour then we should support what the band is
doing. That perfect balance is virtually impossible.
So...the 'fans' were relieved when FUBB was aired?
Sorry mate....i'm just relieved when i'm at front of stage watching the
greatest twin guitar band in the world!
One day that won't be an option.
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Gary S 17/10/2003
gs@bradfordcityfc.cjb.net
Have to agree with FatDrummer on that one. There are plenty of folk, my
father amongst them, who perhaps only own a couple of Wishbone records
but will still turn out to see them on tour once in a while....for these
folks it's necessary to have a big chunk of Argus in the set, as it just
may encourage them to come back next time the band are in their area!
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Mike Spooner 17/10/2003
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FD - Spot on, mate. Having said that, the guys in the band probably need
the odd bit of change to keep the fire going. On the current tour, it
was a bit of a shame that a couple of Bona Fide tracks were dropped in
favour of a more complete Argus set. And why isn't my DVD here
yet????!!!
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Eddie Dwyer 17/10/2003
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Just a few comments from one of the “rabid” element, on some of the
recent postings regarding the variety of material in the WA playlist. I
think we can all agree that we really are blessed that WA have created
what I believe is a wealth of good material. I am proud of owning and
liking other WA records besides Argus, and would love the opportunity to
hear some of the lesser played material played live. Does this represent
a lack of support/respect for the band? I don’t think so. I buy their
CD’s, DVD’s and try and see them live. Should I be content and be
grateful that “it is necessary to have such a big chunk of Argus in the
set” because some fans possibly only own a couple of WA records? I don’t
think so! Letting fans hear a wider range of WA material might encourage
them to add a few records to their collection. I understand the point
that the FatDrummer is making – that there is a core set of favourite
songs that the live WA fans would expect and want. Whilst the perfect
balance probably isn’t possible, providing some variety should be.
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Billy Auld 17/10/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Wouldn't it be great to have ALL our favourite songs and players from
the Wishbone archives in one big festival? It is ofcourse only a dream
but let's fantasise for a while.We could book one of those holiday
villages for a weekend and have the various line ups perform a whole
feast of material over 3 days. At the same time we could have the likes
of Iron Maiden,Thin Lizzy etc to guest and give a rendition of some WA
material as well. Who would pay to have this kind of weekend??!!?? ME
for one.Could the performers realistically do this for the FANS,why not?
Would it be financially viable? ofcourse!Name the ticket
price,£100,£200,or more for a weekend inc. accommodation,multiply by
2-3000 heads and it could certainly be achieved.Would knock Ashcon into
a cocked hat,LOL.
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Buck 17/10/2003
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Billy, I had to smile at Chris's reply to you on the 14th, Don't you two
comunicate with each other? or have you lost your middle man, In London
maybe.
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Billy Auld 18/10/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Hey Buck
Yuo're bang on about the lack of communication between me and Chris and
that's not just because we are father and son. Chris is a very quiet
reserved guy who thinks everyone around him is telepathic. Steve always
organised chris's life for him and Chris is all at sea without his big
brother. I just don't know if he will ever be able to get himself
organised without him! same goes for me.
Billy
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Dee 18/10/2003
firesign@ptd.net
Billy, your gathering of all WA members past and present sounds great to
me! From this day forth, I declare it my new favorite daydream. Although
I just might get and keep Laurie, Martin, and Steve up there on stage
with Andy, being that I'm partial to that era! :-)
It's good to see other fans of "New England" stepping forward.
I also can see the merit in having the band play songs from each CD in
order to increase sales of the back catalog. As a casual fan of other
bands, it's nice to hear recognizable songs, but good music is good
music, regardless of the song title and whether I've ever heard it
before. I have bought CDs based on songs I've heard at live shows.
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FatDrummer 19/10/2003
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Eddie, fully understand and agree with your point....just goes to show
how hard it is to get that balance.
I think Billy's got the best idea!!
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Shamus McGillicuddy 21/10/2003
tobesuretobesure
Jailbait in Eb.(Pilgrimage) Who the heck plays in Eb. Was it to suit
Ted's Irish Tenor range?
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justajoke 21/10/2003
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I'm wondering why I just can't hit that E?
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Matty 21/10/2003
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'Who the heck plays in Eb'...
Well, most of the jazz community for a start. Most blues is played in
the flat keys (F, Bb, Eb...and often C). Ash's music - especially the
early stuff - is based on the blues so it's not that weird.
You're going to tell me that that's the only song in that type of key
now aren't you!!
Having said that, a lot of rock music seems to be played in D, A etc..
Written on guitars whereas jazz gives a nod to brass players/instruments
who find it easier to play in the flat keys.
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Mike 21/10/2003
mikerule@hotmail.com
I don't think there is any other Wishbone song in Eb - and why did they
do it in that key on the album when they've always done it in E live?
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N. Igma 21/10/2003
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it is of course possible that it was played in E on Pilgrimage, but the
pressing was mastered too slow, hence the slightly dropped key. King
Will Come on Argus suffered this. Listen to the original vinyl or CD
versions - it runs slower and flatter than the live versions. Now listen
to the remastered Argus CD, where Martin has corrected the speed/key.
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Brian W. 21/10/2003
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Speaking of the remastered Argus, why was Sometime World shorter (the
final solo on the fade out) than on the original CD. I never had the
vinyl but the first CD version of Argus in the US contains a Sometime
World that is about 10 or 15 seconds longer than the remastered CD. That
is an incredible solo and I hate that it fades out sooner. Still, the
sound is greatly improved. Any chance of remastering "There's the Rub"
for a 30th anniversary edition next year? I still contend that the CD
(at least the US version) needs it badly.
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Edward A.D. Gladstone 21/10/2003
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Martins' bass sound on 'There's the Rub' is the best on any Ash album.
He must have soaked his strings in good scotch for that one.
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F Sharp 21/10/2003
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I threw an old guitar down a mineshaft the other day. Guess what note it
played when it hit bottom?...........A Flat Minor.
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JP 23/10/2003
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Saw Ash at the Stables on Wednesday. Good as always. However must admit
I enjoyed the non-Argus stuff more, Time Was and Sometime World apart
which really impressed, as storming versions of Standing in the Rain,
Jailbait, and the "new" song. Two hours or great music from a band that
looked like it was really enjoying itself. Gig was a sell out and doubt
if they had played a couple less Argus tracks, will affect the next Ash
gig here which is bound to be another sell out.
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Matty 23/10/2003
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Edward A.D.G.
Didn't martin use a Rickenbacker 4001 on There's the rub, as opposed to
his 'usual' Thunderbird..?
It certainly has a lot in common with Geddy Lee's (Rush) sound a few
ywars later.
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Edward A.D. Gladstone 23/10/2003
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I think Martin used a Rick on 'No Smoke'; the sound is a little flatter
but fits well with that particular album. I always thought that 'The
Pilgrim' on the 2nd album has a Rick sound to it. I'd love to hear the
'Handy' solo recorded on a Tbird.
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Fred R 24/10/2003
fr21555@aol.com
I was told by Martin years ago that the majority of Ash tracks were cut
using his trusty P-Bass, which came as quite a surprise. Apparently,
Martin didn't use the T-Bird very much except live.
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Marcus G. 26/10/2003
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Whatever model of bass MT played, even a Hondo 1 string would probably
sound pretty darned good.
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MikeG 27/10/2003
info@mantequilla.co.uk
Wishbone Ash have been confirmed to be playing a charity gig in aid of
'See Ability' in Tadley Hampshire on 8th November 2003.
The gig will be the last night of the current UK tour and they will be
supported by Mantequilla, the hotest rock band in the
Reading area.
Tickets are £15 and all profits will be donated to the charity. For
ticket information call Colin on 07909 723166 or Paul on 07971
862143. Doors open at 7pm.
Don't miss out - it promises to be a great gig.
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Matty 27/10/2003
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MikeG
.....any more on the charity and its aims....?
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Rich D 27/10/2003
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Seamus, Mike, and others pondering the significance of Eb! Many bands
tune down half a step, from E to E flat, and they do it for a number of
reasons. Could be the ones you list, but could sometimes it's to suit
the singer's vocal range - it can be easier to hit higher notes if the
guitars are tuned down, and it's easier to tune the guitars down so that
you can use standard chord shapes. Playing in "flat" keys can be a bit
fiddly! Also, some guitarists prefer the tone you get when detuned
slightly, and you can bend the strings more forcefully, as there's
slightly less tension. Yngwie Malmsteen and Stevie Ray Vaughn used to
tune to E flat (I think SRV did if memory serves). A lot of Nu Metal and
Death Metal bands get their sound by tuning down from E to D and even C
in some cases!
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Allan Price 28/10/2003
KissThisKissThis@hotmail.com
The Ash at The Muni, Pontypridd were truly amazing.
I re-iterate a big thanks to Andy for still doing it.
Bob, thanks for the chat, top class bass player, seeya at the W14!!!
Genuinely honoured to have played the same bill.
Great band, still, great people. Good luck with all you do.
Allan
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Pete 30/10/2003
quickbeb@webmail.co.za
Great priviledge to be at the Limelight gig a few weeks ago - wonder if
the band will ever pay a visit to South Africa? We get so little decent
live bands passing through. Have to say the current line-up does justice
to all of the favourites and would love to hear them once again.
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bob c 30/10/2003
bobc33@ntlworld.com
What a superb gig at The Brook last night. Excellent stuff, which
certainly much impressed my 'newbie' mates. Not only were they impressed
with the music, but also with the guys personally. Nice bunch of chaps,
those Wishbones!
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Billy Auld 30/10/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Hi Pete
You and Bobby Cameron need to get a campaign going to get Wishbone down
to South Africa. The last time they were there they pulled out of the
tour due to the political situation but maybe things are better now?
Meantime why don't you check out Robin Auld next time he gigs in Cape
Town. I'll be meeting with Robin in 3 weeks time in London before he
flies back to RSA. Maybe he can help with getting a good promoter for WA.
Billy
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Bobby Cameron 31/10/2003
robbie_cameron@digica.co.za
Yeh Billy, maybe we could get ASH to appear with Mr Mandela and U2 next
month on Robben Island. Anyway, Pete your email address is incorrect!!!
Enjoy Robin Auld Billy. He really is a marvellous musician.
BobbyC in Cape Town.
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Pete Webb 02/11/2003
quickben@webmail.co.za
Apologies for getting address buggered...
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chriselder 04/11/2003
chriselder@btopenworld.com
Is anybody else having problems on the .com site?
It seems to be stuck on maintenance mode on the forum page or is it just
me?..
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FatDrummer 04/11/2003
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No, Chris it's not just you.
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billy auld 04/11/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Looks like we'll just have to hang around here for a while.Just found
out Ray is going to live in California...Wonder if tub thumper is about
to change in near future???? Whatever Ray is embarking on I wish him
well.
Billy
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Gary S 04/11/2003
gs@bradfordcityfc.cjb.net
Billy - I think Ray has said he'll continue to fill the drumstool. After
all, there have been Ash members in 3 countries for a while now!
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Jim Ord 05/11/2003
communitel@btconnect.com
Does anyone know if any commercially available videos/dvds are available
of the following:- Unicef Wembley 1979, Town and Country club 1990 and
the Bedrock series which was recorded at Bristol in the same year?
Regards to all Ash fans. Jim
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Gary S 05/11/2003
gs@bradfordcityfc.cjb.net
Jim - the link below is a recent concert, but has the Bristol gig as a
'bonus ' disc.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000C66A2/qid=1068063590/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_2_4/026-4314144-0912426
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Flying Seaman 05/11/2003
peter@longdon.co.uk
Cheers guys for a superb gig at Barnsley Trades Club. Ray looked a bit
stunned that he had to walk through the crowd to get to the stage, but
once up there everyone looked - especially Bob - like they were having a
good time.My 14 year-old son was well impressed; he said WA were even
better -live - than The Darkness! I'll reserve judgement on that one....
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sam platt 06/11/2003
l.brindley@cwctv.net
its about time you got martin turner back on board! he is the definitive
wishbone voice! despite all your wonderful guitar playing I really miss
his distinctive vocals-make up dudes!p.s I bet your'e sick of this-sorry
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sam platt 06/11/2003
l.brindley@cwctv.net
top three ash albums
1.new england
2.theres the rub.
3.argus
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magnusT 06/11/2003
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Re: sam platt
Today I saw the new DVD and I am amazed about how good they are today.
(I have seen them Live Too this summer).But one thing is that M. Turners
or Ted Turners sensibility is
something that should be added to the Vocals
I don,t know which is the best album but I can say the most bad
song they done and that is of course 'Started in Heaven' at Locked In
but today I love that one too.
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Jim 07/11/2003
communitel@btconnect.com
Hi Gary S, many thanks for the DVD tip... ordered it from Amazon
straight away. All the best!
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Gary S 07/11/2003
gs@bradfordcityfc.cjb.net
No problem Jim..........it's down on my Christmas list!
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badtothebone 08/11/2003
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why is the DVD which is fawlty being sold
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fatty owls 08/11/2003
basil@fawltytowers.torquay
Ask Basil...maybe because it's FAULTY
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Mr B.BRUSH 08/11/2003
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fatty, your just giving bad the BRUSH off now
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mugu@mugu.com 09/11/2003
mugu@mugu.com
keep off oooooooo
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Alan Bloor 09/11/2003
alanbloor@hotmail.com
If anyone involved with the organisation of the .com site is reading
this, please could you give some explanation as to why the messageboard
has been down for over a week, and when it is likely to be back?
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mike tarling 10/11/2003
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i have just heard a rumour that "our graham" from ashbone u wish filled
in for bob skeat on the last 2 dates of the uk tour. can anyone confirm
this and maybe explain why we didnt get to hear about it in advance? im
gutted!!
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Al B (AUW) 10/11/2003
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Yes Mike it is true, this was due to Bob's partner unfortunately falling
ill and hence a few hours notice for Graham to hotleg it from Milton
Keynes to the Guilford Civic Hall gig and the last 2 dates too. He will
be too modest to say it, but anyone who saw these gigs will know he was
absolutely outstanding! Great too for our band to be of some service to
the real thing. Andy and the boys took this all in their stride
determined not to let anyone down, hats off to them. Look out for a pics
and a full report by Graham on our web site in due course (www.ashboneuwish.co.uk)
Meanwhile we all send our thoughts and best wishes to Bob and his
partner for a speedy recovery.
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bob c 10/11/2003
bobc33@ntlworld.com
Hi Mike.
Yes, it was a really last minute thing I'm told, as Bob's partner was
rushed into hospital after suffering a severe heart attack. Her
condition has been critical, though she has stabilised mercifully since,
apparently. In the light of this, I think we can understand why Bob
could not fulfill the last tour dates. As Al B says, they are of course
very much in our thoughts and prayers at this time.
BTW, regards to you, Mike.
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Billy Auld 11/11/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
So sorry to hear about Bob's partner.Hope she has a good and speedy
recovery. Well done Graham of AUW for standing in at very short
notice,reminds me of when Chris got the call to save the Bradford Rio
gig when Roger was ill during the Illuminations tour.Who says tribute
bands don't amount to much?!?
Billy
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mike tarling 11/11/2003
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just to apologise for any lack of sentimentality in my last post as i
was not aware of the full circumstances - just my natural enthusiasm
taking over!!
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brian w. 12/11/2003
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Hey Mike, I don't think your post sounded insensitive. We all know
you're a class guy. Anyone heard anything about the release of the Lost
Just Testing Tapes? I was sooo excited when I heard they were planning
to make them available but its been ages now and I'm wondering if
they'll ever see the light of day...
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bob c 12/11/2003
bobc33@ntlworld.com
Echo your words about Mike, Brian! Just to let you know - if you haven't
noticed - the pages which were down on the .com site are now available
again.
Cheers.
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mike tarling 12/11/2003
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oh stop it, im blushing!! brian, i agree - the Lost Tapes project has
been proceeding far too slowly for my liking. i gather the problem has
been time and money, ie booking and paying for studio time in which to
listen to the large volume of unmarked tapes. we can only hope that
somebody somewhere does something to get things moving.
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brian w. 12/11/2003
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I wonder if Andy Powell and Martin Turner have been in contact regarding
the project (the lost Just Testing tapes). Not to take anything away
from the current lineup which I think is great but these tapes are
simply screaming for release. I don't think it will hurt current sales,
with the DVD now out (if that's even what they're worried about).
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Ray Pascual 12/11/2003
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Have any of you been to see the guys playing in foreign parts? I'm
toying with the idea of visiting France in December...either Paris,
Rouen or Toulouse. What experiences have you had on such trips abroad?
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Ray Pascual 12/11/2003
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Whilst in the mood for typing, I must mention that I attended the
Guildford concert. Graham did a great job in Bob's absence (my best
wishes to him and his partner). I noted that they stuck very much to the
old numbers, this partly because I think these were the one's that
Graham new and also that they were mainly on the running list anyway.
Breaking strings always add a bit of excitement and Ben handled his one
with great expertise....and picked up a replacement guitar and continued
almost seamlessly! The song list seemed to cause Andy to be playing more
than usual...which was nice!
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Dennis 13/11/2003
Jonathan@jgbrady.fsnet.co.uk
hello
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Name not given 13/11/2003
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Is the band have agood following outside the UK
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Jonathan Moorehead 15/11/2003
MOJOSMOKE@aol.com
Just a note to say thanks to everyone in the Wishbone community for
their support of the Blue Law Double Live CD. As many of you know, it
has sold out. I know that Blue Law is but a tiny branch on the mighty
Wishbone family tree, and I'm amazed at the support and encouragement
offered by everyone. My duplicator tells me he has a stash of five left
that I can have, so if anyone out there would like one of the last few,
let me know.
The success of this, the great album reviews, and the feedback and
encouragement of fans has made me consider making a new compilation CD
of Andy Powell with Blue Law live on the radio. I have various gems like
the BBC stuff with Bruce Springsteen axeman Nils Lofgren sitting in, as
well as an "unplugged" American radio show we did in New York, with
legendary comedian Kevin Meaney. It's really funny. I also have the BBC
stuff we did for Paul Jones' show, (remember Paul, the radio host and ex
Manfred Mann member?) What do you think? Would anyone want it? I realize
that Blue Law was not everyone's cup of tea in the Wishbone realm, being
a bit brassy and in-your-face. I'm not looking to make a buck, I'm a
collector myself and I love sharing music. Andy does not do much playing
outside of Wishbone, and I wonder if folks would like to hear more of
his blues side. I'd love your input. It's a bit expensive to do it
right, especially in small batches. I lost money on the last one; I
underestimated how many copies I would have to give away free to
reviewers, bandmates, etc. I also gave copies to the people responsible
for making the original bootleg, and getting it into my hands. So, I
want to know if anyone cares before I do it again with a radio
compilation theme. Wadd'ya think?
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Jim 16/11/2003
communitel@btconnect.com
Hello! WA fan of 33 years looking for any rare items featuring the band
1970 to 1991. I know you@ve guessed..wife needs help with Christmas
pressy list!
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Name not given 20/11/2003
wholovesyababy
Have a rare item for sale. One of Andys' hairs!!!!oooooooooooooooooohh
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kojak 20/11/2003
lollipopsucker.com
You should clean your teeth more often!!!
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bassman 20/11/2003
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Jim -
A fellow fan & friend tells me that one of Ted's guitars a customised
epiphone les paul with gibson fittings is on sale on e-bay at the moment
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Dee 21/11/2003
firesign@ptd.net
Brian, I'm with you on the lost Just Testing tapes. I would love to hear
those songs reworked and released. The idea of new WA Martin material
out there is a really exciting prospect to me. I'll be extremely
disappointed if nothing happens with it. Does anyone know if Martin's
working in the studio at all or just playing the dates with the Blue
Bishops?
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Bob Stack 21/11/2003
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Seen the pic of Andy & Martin on Ashbone's site?
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billyauld 21/11/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Been clicking on everything on the Ashbone site but cant get the
Andy/martin pic.Help
Billy
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bob c 21/11/2003
bobc33@ntlworld.com
Hi Billy!
Click on the 'Wishbone Ash' link and it should come straight up...
Cheers
Bob C
PS Well done the Ruud boys!!!!
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Bob 21/11/2003
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Billy under the Wishbone Ash tab.
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billy auld 22/11/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Thanks guys going there now.Surely I need therapy.....looking at a
picture of 2 aging rock stars.Gets you thinking what it's all
about.Suppose it's all about hanging onto our youth.When we see our
heroes are still kicking around with attitude gives us the excuse to do
the same.OK enough philosifying for one night....now where's that
picture...
Billy
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Jaspion 22/11/2003
guitarra@recaflex.com.br
Wishbone Ash recent photos!! http://www.canaloffice.com.br/wishboneash/
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D.A.T. 22/11/2003
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I would advise anybody biddingon items that claim to be this or that,
ensure they are certificated prior to paying big bucks.
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criselder 22/11/2003
criselder@btopenworld.com
If D.A.T. is neaning the Gison on ebay?, it appears to check out as I
have been sent a photo of Ted playing the said guitar with the amp in
the background.
I think I'll stay off the bidding though, Good look Billy.
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chriselder 22/11/2003
chriselder@btopenworld.com
can't even spell my own name.
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chriselder 22/11/2003
chriselder@btopenworld.com
can' even spell, meaning or Gibson. O' I give up
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Dee 24/11/2003
firesign@ptd.net
I may sound silly, but it did my heart good to see Andy and Martin in a
recent picture together. Just thought I'd comment.
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Billy Auld 24/11/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Hi Dee
I know what you mean.It would be great to know that any bad feeling
between any of the original band members was buried and forgotten.Who
was it that said..."throw down the sword"? I may possibly be seeing
Martin Turner in London this weekend.If I can get a photo I'll post it
here and pass on your best wishes to him...I know how much you admire
him.
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Gordon 24/11/2003
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Dee - Where is this picture?
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althedrummer 24/11/2003
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It's on AshboneUWish's website at www.ashboneuwush.co.uk
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Gordon 24/11/2003
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Thanks Al.
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Mike 24/11/2003
mikerule@hotmail.com
I'm going to open a very old can of worms here that hasn't been touched
for a while - how's about we get on to MCA/Universal and find out whats
happening with Live Dates II - my vinyl copy is really starting to show
it's age!!!!
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Ray Pascual 24/11/2003
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Just been listening to Planet Rock channel on the radio tonight when
they featured Hawkwind....BUT...next week (Monday 1st December) they are
featuring Wishbone and chatting to Andy. I listen to the station on NTL
on my tv (channel 880) but presumably it can be listened to elsewhere. I
think the feature bit starts at 9pm, but not sure exactly.
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Dee 25/11/2003
firesign@ptd.net
Billy, you lucky dog! Would you?? I've got to come over there. I can't
stand feeling like this every time I miss an opportunity to see Martin
play live. I just hope he continues making music until then. Videos are
neat, but there's nothing like the real thing. I've gotten to see so
many bands over the years, and yet Martin is IT for me, and I've never
gotten to see him play live. A month or so ago I had the chance to hear
and meet one of my top bass players (but of course, MT is #1 and stands
head and shoulders above the rest), Tim Bogert. I can't remember if I
shared it with the group, but a year ago we went to see Vanilla Fudge
and Tim couldn't make it, so I was so disappointed. Now a year after
that I finally got to see him. Whether he was just that good or I was
just so blown away because I'd probably never see anything like it
again, I don't know, but I felt myself actually shaking I was so keyed
up. And again, I've been to lots of shows, and I'm 39, not a kid. Later
I got my picture taken with Tim and Carmine Appice, with Tim kissing me
on the cheek (his spontaneous idea, honest), it was just so cool! So you
can imagine me, Miss Cool who meets musicians and doesn't blink an eye,
yet by the time Tim was done with his bass solo, I was physically
shaken. If I were to get a chance to see and meet Martin, it would be
like the culmination of every minute of music I listened to since I got
my very first record when I was 7 years old. Does that make sense or do
I sound totally "female"? Music is an extremely powerful force in my
life.
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Dee 25/11/2003
firesign@ptd.net
Mike, isn't Hot Ash the same as Live Dates II only with an additional
song? I think I just read that somewhere, but it didn't sound right to
me.
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Rainer Frilund 25/11/2003
no more spam,
please
Hi Dee, Mike and all,
Live Dates II and Hot Ash aren't exactly
the same thing, Here's the boring facts
taken from my Wishbone Ash discography
web site (www.saunalahti.fi/fubb/index.htm):
Songs on Live Dates II:
Doctor
Living Proof
Runaway
Helpless
F*U*B*B
The Way Of The World
Lorelei
Persephone
You Rescue Me
Time Was
Goodbye Baby Hello Friend
No Easy Road
All in all 12 songs (on the Double album release)
Songs on Hot Ash
Blowin' Free (*)
Living Proof
Goodbye Baby Hello Friend
Bad Weather Blues (#)
Doctor Live
The Way Of The World
Helpless
No Easy Road
(*) Blowin' Free is a Live Dates II outtake
(#) Bad Weather Blues was a single only issue
(at the time Hot Ash was released)
So all in all 8 songs and six of them from
Live Dates II.
I all for Mike's idea. My Live Dates II copies
are worn out too!
Rainer Frilund
Kokkola, Finland
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Dee 26/11/2003
firesign@ptd.net
Rainer, thanks for your expertise!
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Eldrick Woods 26/11/2003
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After seeing the photo of the Andy & Martin meeting on the AUW website I
think we need to come up with some suitable Captions. Any Thoughts?
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Ted Turnip 26/11/2003
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Handy!!
Persephone!!
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Norris Smythe 26/11/2003
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He was my best friend for a while?
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Gee 26/11/2003
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Arn't you Martin Turner?
Yes Arn't you Kojak?
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Mike Jackson 26/11/2003
offthewall.co.uk
Everybody needs to have an Enemy
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Bob Uppendown 26/11/2003
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Press conference for the remake of Close Encounters.
left: Andy Powell, who stars in the film as The Alien. right, Martin
Turner, musical director extrordinaire
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Gordon 26/11/2003
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What do you mean you forgot to bring your T'bird?? I s'pose we'll have
to use someone from the tribute band!
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Name not given 26/11/2003
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or....
Martin: why d'ya get the guy from the tribute band, when me and my
T-Bird only live a mile up the road
Andy: Err....good question.
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Val Addiction 26/11/2003
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Martin - well Andy, we applaud the way you pulled it off, the way you
came out on top.
Andy - Martin, I love you for who you are, you give it everything, its
YOU who is the star
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Doctor Ken (you help me please) 27/11/2003
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"Broken wings can heal and mend again" (????)
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Rich T 27/11/2003
rtomas@go2.pl
Martin: "You turned a blind eye to everything I ever did".
Andy: "I think I see the errors of my way".
(or the other way 'round)
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chris 27/11/2003
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Martin: "Andy, why didnt you give me a call? I would have helped
out...."
Andy: "Oh, the guy from the tribute band said you were out of the
country...."
Martin: "Why, I oughta....!!!"
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Mike Spooner 27/11/2003
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Martin: "Surface....no hair"
Andy: "It's beginning to show"
Martin "Got hair...."
Andy: "Oh where did mine go?"
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Gordon 28/11/2003
dreamon.org
All kidding aside, wouldn't it be nice if we heard Martin's great pipes
belting out Blowin' Free, Everyone Needs a Friend, etc. at least one
more time??
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Penny Bonc 28/11/2003
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Yes, but not with WA. Its a bygone age. What would be better would be MT
out there doing his thing with a new band, playing HIS chosen selection
of music from the past as well as his solo album. Remember the good
times, yes, but dont dwell. If it didnt work in 80, 91 or 96 it aint
gonna work now. Let them go their onw way. But we still need to hear
that great voice and bass in action before we all retire
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chris 28/11/2003
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absolutely Penny!
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Matty 29/11/2003
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I disagree with the comment '..if it didn't work in 80, 91 and 96 it
aint gonna work now.'
WA had a succession of, largely indifferent, albums and I think the band
went through several low ebbs.
Andy and Co have worked really hard to keep the flag flying with all the
touring (gaining new fans at the same times), plus released some good
albums (eg, Illuminations, Bare Bones).
A return of MT to the fold could work - assuming everyone was happy with
the idea, including young Bob!
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al 29/11/2003
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has any body got their replacement copy of almighty blues yet?
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Ziza Mottin 29/11/2003
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I had the amazing experience of see and share with the Bro's the "BoneAsh"
with these eyes that the grownd will eat!!
Porto Alegre - Brasil
Nov 2003 - Thanks God, Im My Mind!!
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Martin Turner 29/11/2003
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Billy - sorry I could not see you this week but I got sick again after
coming into contact with cement, been laid up for over a week with skin
coming off very swollen hands and arms. The Pig Sty Tapes, as we call
them - I have agreed to try and straighten them out, they were encoded
with some whacky noise reduction system, so it will probably need some
time consuming experimentation to get em sounding right, but I'm sure I
can get there. I've heard roughs and they are messy sounding but I'm in
communication with Guy Roberts and can hopefully pick up tapes before
Xmas,
but I don't think they will be ready to go out till at least spring 04.
Graham - Well done for a good job at Guildford Civic. Must go marinate
hands. Bye
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Jonathan Moorehead 29/11/2003
MOJOSMOKE@aol.com
Greetings everyone! Jon from Blue Law here. I was wondering if someone
out there could answer a question. I recieved payment in the mail for a
Blue Law Double Live CD from Nick De Jong from the Netherlands. The
trouble is, I cannot read his handwriting to send him his CD! I searched
the web with his name and the keywords "Wishbone Ash", to no avail, but
his name seems very familiar to me from the Wishbone family. If someone
out there knows him, could you send me his email address, or let him
know to contact me and send me his mailing address, so I can fulfill his
order?
Thanks!
jon
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Jim 30/11/2003
communitel@btconnect.com
Hi everyone,I'll probably get shot down in flames but here we go! I've
followed Wishbone from day one, I could deal with Laurie as Teds
replacement but no Martin..no Wishbone Ash! I actually rang the bands
office on hearing about Mart leaving back in 1980..Penny (Gibbons)
talked to me and said she thought it was exciting..i said its a
disaster. Who was right? Still lets consider ourselves fortunate to see
the Mark one line up in the late eighties, I doubt we will ever be that
lucky again.
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FatDrummer 30/11/2003
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No Jim, you won't get shot down on here. Sadly this is the home of the
MT Liberation Factor. More is posted about Mart than the current line up
on here...each to their own of course...I just wish that all pretence
was got rid of and the site was re-named martinturner.co.uk
I would still come on as i'm open minded enough to be interested in all
aspects of Wishbone related matters.
Consider yourself shot at...if not shot down.
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bob c 30/11/2003
bobc33@ntlworld.com
Hi Jim! If you consider being able to watch an excellent Wishbone Ash
twice a year in the UK as a disaster, then fine. I would much rather do
that than maybe witness a 'cameo' appearance by the MK1 or 2 band once
in a blue moon, if ever... Jim, check out the comments made by many
people who have have seen the band live recently (particularly the
Brazil tour) on the .com site. It makes me feel rather fortunate to see
my fave band in action on a regular basis. I know many people who have
shared your misgivings but on seeing the current line-up have been
're-converted.'
All the best.
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al 30/11/2003
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we all love and miss martin but i think andy and the lads are doing an
excellent job. i agree with u on that one bob.
keep up the good work lads and i must say what a superb guitarist ben
granfelt is.
keep on rocking
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Jim 30/11/2003
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Thanks for the kind replies. I still buy the current material by the
way! Yes Ben .what can I say.. very good indeed!Nice to be able to
express a view without being shot to bits! Thanks Fat,D Bob and Al. I do
also very much appreciate your views.
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bob c 30/11/2003
bobc33@ntlworld.com
That's cool, Jim. Love is much better than war! Disparate views are the
stuff of such forums... Good to see you still keep in touch.
Regards.
PS Glad to see someone agrees with me on something, Al!
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Ray Pascual 30/11/2003
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Just a note to remind all that Wishbone are being featured on the Planet
Rock radio channel on NTL cable TV on Monday 1st December at 9pm (i
think)...also on Sky somewhere...they will be chatting with Andy.
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billy auld 30/11/2003
billy@auld1.freeserve.co.uk
Firstly let me respond to Martin's message to me...No prob's martin,
another time for sure.I've just had a great weekend with Robin Auld in
london.Music lovers check him out.www.robinauld.co.za
Singer songwriter stuff,top notch.On the Martin Turner camp vs. Andy
Powell...sighhhhh.Anyone who thinks I don't LOVE the current line-up
doesn't know me and fair enough why should they care what I like.As fans
of Wishbone Ash we ALL must surely realise the MASSIVE contribution and
sacrifise that each band member has made over the years.Martin Turner
has made no less a contribution than any other.It could certainly be
argued that Martin's contribution has been most representative of what
makes Wishbone ash what it is.Martin has remained a true professional
throughout the years. If he was less of a professional he might have put
a lot of the story concerning his absence from the band here for the
fans to see.Suffice to say Martin has always believed that the music is
there for us to enjoy and appreciate no matter what has transpired
behind the scenes.But let me ask you this....If,as Martin has expressed
Wishbone Ash music is such a big part of him that he feels HE needs to
express...why is HE not even approached to help at a gig in his own home
town???? Do we as fans not deserve an explanation? Would we have enjoyed
seeing Martin playing HIS music? Should HE not at least have been given
the opportunity?Now before any of you start to try to knock me for what
I say just consider ALL of the comments i've made over the years
concerning the band.I know many of you don't know ALL of the back ground
to WHY Martin is not with the band now.My wholehearted belief is that
Martin,Andy,et al should give their HONEST reasons why Martin is not
with the band now.
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mike tarling 01/12/2003
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billy, do you know for a fact that martin was't asked? or that he would
have accepted?
i dont know the facts, but i assumed andy rang him up and he declined
but passed the gig to graham.
comments anybody?
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Jim 01/12/2003
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I wonder if you could be right Mike..cheers for the CDs by the way
..really excellent and an unexpected surprise! Will call soon.
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magnusT 01/12/2003
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I read in the book Blowin Free (side 196-197) that several Television
recordings been done with early Wishbone Ash. Is it possible to see this
material some time now or in the future.
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Dee 02/12/2003
firesign@ptd.net
To Martin - stay away from cement! As a musician, you need to take care
of your hands. They're your livelihood! Stay away from chainsaws,
drills, and other hand tools as well. That goes for all musicians! Hire
someone or let your wife do it ;-)
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Satan 03/12/2003
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He was just making some boots for Andy Powell
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Angel 03/12/2003
harpinhand@cloud9.com
Now,now lucipher you will get your chance to roast him in time..."baby
the angels are here"
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SAM PLATT 04/12/2003
l.brindley@cwctv.net
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL
CONNECTED TO WISHBONE
ASH RE-UNITE! HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL LONG SUFFERING FANS TOO! I LOVE YOU
ALL! MOOOOWAH!!!!!!!!!!!xxx
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Ray Pascual 04/12/2003
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Hi all. Billy, you seem to know all about the problems between Andy and
Mart...so why don't YOU tell us what the problems are? All that I have
gathered is that Andy chose to ask Roger to do the bass on Illuminations
rather than drag Mart to the USA for the recording...which seems to make
sense to me, seeing as how Wishbone have to record on limited budgets
these days.
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bob the builder 05/12/2003
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cement and slime dont mix
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Name not given 05/12/2003
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whos or what is slime then bobby boy
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Dee 05/12/2003
firesign@ptd.net
I just got my copy of Tracks 2 in the mail today, with Martin's
autograph, of course! It's always neat to hear new and different live
versions of some favorites. My only wish is that there was more old
stuff on here. It's great to hear Martin's vocals again on something
other than the studio CDs I listen to over and over again.
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Chef Jeremy 06/12/2003
Shiraz@thechateau.co.fr
Wishbone Ash Pie Recipe:
4 Cups Martin Turner.
3.9 Cups Ted Turner.
3.9 Cups Steve Upton.
3.9 Cups Andy Powell.
3.89 Cups Laurie Wisefield.
3.2 Cups Derek Lawrence.
-.00005 Spoonfuls Tom Dowd.
4 Teaspoons Bill Szymzhic.
2 Miles Of Copeland.
6oz Sherry.
1/2 Cup Misc Ingredients.
1 Sprinkle of Gibson.
1 Shake of Fender.
1.7 Sides Of Argus.
Only 1 Wishbone.
1 Lynyrd Skin
Pass on the Locked In.
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Bob Uppendowne 06/12/2003
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No room in there for a spoonful of Fat Albert?
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Hobbit 08/12/2003
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There's The Flub?
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Brian W. 11/12/2003
no way, too
much spam!
Hi Folks, I just received 3 old ZigZag magazines (Issues 49, 51 and 52)
with a boat-load of Wishbone Ash related articles. Very interesting
stuff. Issue 49 had a great Home article, Issue 51 had The wishbone Ash
Story Part 1 and Issue 52 had Part 2. And the articles were very
positive, too. You can read where some of the comments from the Blowin'
Free book first originated. When was the last time Wishbone Ash had this
much press coverage? I can't even recall.
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Howard House 12/12/2003
twmsolicitors.com
A new CD entitled Warriors has just appeared in my local HMV. It is a
double, and contains familiar material. It is issued by Snapper Records,
licenced by Talking Elephant. Does anyone know anything about it? Is it
live, or studio outtakes, or just another compilation with nothing new
on it?
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mike tarling 13/12/2003
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yeah i've seen that in hmv too. looks like it's the same as tracks (1).
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Name not given 13/12/2003
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Ash related sites
http://www.andypowell.co.uk/
http://www.rayweston.com/
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Name not given 13/12/2003
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http://www.martinturner.com/
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FatDrummer 14/12/2003
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It goes without saying that these sites do not exist.
DO NOT GO TO THEM!!
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Name not given 15/12/2003
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Just been to www.rayweston.com. it does exist. www.andypowell.com is
actually known as www.wishboneash.com
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dave c 15/12/2003
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went to my first wishbone ash concert for many a year thanks to my son
who has liked them since he started listening to my collection a few
years ago saw them at the start of their u.s.a tour in san juan
capistrano then lochgelly in fife im hooked again yove got to admit the
band really work hard touring im gratefull to my son rory who got me
going to see them again . p.s the new dvd is brilliant in my humble
opinion a great combination of old and new
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Name not given 15/12/2003
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fatdrummer the sites do all exist. obviously you never even bothered to
visit the sites.
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Name not given 15/12/2003
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Howard,
Warriors is almost identical to Tracks except Warriors has less songs.
Get Tracks instead.
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denis&mairead(ireland) 15/12/2003
d_crowley@unison.ie
we were at the 'new morning'paris on 5th dec,hav'nt seen band for
somtime, they were great,really rockin,the atmosphere was fantastic,the
band enjoyed themselves especially ben.
met the band later and had a great chat with them.hope to see lads in
new year. keep on go'in.
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FatDrummer 15/12/2003
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www.andypowell.com is real is it?
So....how come you get taken to a site under the name of "andrea bound".
Now I didn't hang around to find out whether Andrea was a nice young
lady or even what she was bound to do, but somehow I think that she
might have been the kind of girl that my mother warned me about all
those years ago. I haven't tried the rayweston site, but i've been
trying to work out where i'll be taken should I succumb to the urge.
RemoteAddr: 80.225.2.131
Name not given 16/12/2003
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Dont know how your getting Andrea Bound. When I enter ap.com I get "This
domain has been registered for a client by Easyspace." Ray Weston dot
com leads to a musicians site, but not our Ray
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Ray Pascual 16/12/2003
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Hi All
Odd this, cos when i put in www.andypowell.co.uk....i do get straight to
a site of that name...but it's not 'our' man...some other guy with the
same name.
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none 17/12/2003
full of crap.com
yeah, all these sites are legite. Just not ash members. our friend below
was just having fun.eh..eh..eh..could you imagine these three forming a
band called wishbone ash@$#%&!
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Brian W. 18/12/2003
No More Spam
Please!!!
Just picked up the Almighty Blues DVD the other day. I was hesitant to
purchase it because I have not been very happy with Classic Rock
Productions releases in the past (hatchet-job editing, error-filled
tracklistings) but this is fantastic. Excellent sound and video. The
band and crowd look like they're having a great time. Jailbait is
positively smokin'. This lineup is easily the best (IMHO) since 1980.
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Bill Baxendale 23/12/2003
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Come on yee merry Wishbone fans, how about a Christmas cheer for
England’s finest rock band. There hasn’t been a heavy post at this site
for a while. A merry Christmas to all authentic MK1 & MKII Wishbone
boffs. Bill Baxendale. My 1st post.
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Ray Pascual 23/12/2003
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Delighted to see the Spring tour dates on the 'com' site...why aren't
they here yet...lol? Anyone in the Surrey area, go to the Bisley gig,
it's a good hall and a fascinating place. Happy Xmas to all you WA fans.
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Rich T 24/12/2003
rtomas@go2.pl
Hi there everyone of WA fan family around the world! Have the best
possible Christmas, full of joy, good cheer, happiness and hope that
some day we all will see and hear Martin along with Andy and (...put the
names of your favourites...)performing together, as in the old days.
Merry Christmas everyone!
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Martin Turner 25/12/2003
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Just wanted to say to all you Wisbonian supporters - I hope you have a
wonderful Xmas Time. For me 2003 has been one heavy old year and I look
forward to 2004 with hope. Best wishes to all, love and peace - Martin
Turner
Bill Bax. give us a bell !
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Mel Tinside 25/12/2003
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Rich, why on earth would we want to see Martin back with Andy? Its
history, lets face reality. IF theyive tried it 3 times over why ever
would it work a 4th time? Andy has a fine band as it stands. What I
think MT fans should be lobbying for is Martin to form his OWN band
playing HIS contributions to WA, plus solo material. Surely this would
be a more positive step forwards than another half-baked reunion? If AP
and MT cannot work together, let's not push it but encourage them to
co-exist peacefully as seperate entities. What does others think?
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magnusT 25/12/2003
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reply to Mel Tinside.
Yes I agree. The best with Wishbone Ash today is that they looking
forward! Everybody know how good Wishbone Ash was but not how good they
gonna be.
Merry Chrismas to fans and members of the group.
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bob c 25/12/2003
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Nothing said
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bob c 25/12/2003
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Er.. sorry about that last post - blame it on the Whisky! Magnus, I have
to wholeheartedly agree with you on this one - the current Wishbone Ash
is indeed a thriving and creative force, and I think fans are doing them
a bit of a disservice in their requests in asking for the 'old guard'
back again merely for 'old times sake.' Sure we'd all support Mart in
any work he may be involved in next year (and all the best to you, MT).
Whatever the old arguments, Mr P has maintained the banner of WA in
times good and bad. Just think, 2 UK tours a year, new material and
DVD's - how lucky we are!
Anyway, putting all that aside, here's wishing all you WA fans a very
Happy Christmas and a great New Year.
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Jim 25/12/2003
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Hello all, and Merry Christmas to everyone. Was listening to Just
Testing tonight and Andy Powells guitar work on Insomnia in particular.
I recall a mate of mine who was a professional guitarist saying the
effect Andy had used was an octave divider (octivider in short).
Fascinating and brilliant solo in any case but ....does anyone know what
effect was used? Was my friend correct, if not I would be interested to
know how the effect was achieved.
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Name not given 26/12/2003
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No sorry it wasn't an octive divider on Insomnia or anything like that.
In fact it was a very early guitar synth. I think made by Roland. Hope
this helps
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Jim 26/12/2003
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Thanks for the information regarding the guitar synth on Insomnia.
Anyone know why it was never used for live performances of the track?
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Me again 26/12/2003
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Guitar synths in those days were very jittery...If you played one note
with less than 100% intention, it would often set another note off.
Playing guitar synths requires a very deliberate technique. Andy Powell
could have used it, but he would have had only a 50% chance of getting
all the way through the song without dropping a few clangers. Hope this
helps. Nice to see posts showing an interest in the original bands
musical expertise.
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Fred R 26/12/2003
fr21555@aol.com
Just a (belated)Happy Christmas and New Years' wish to all on the WA UK
site from your friends on the other side of the puddle. Martin, hope we
can get toegther in Feb. when I return to the UK? Drop me an email. Best
to everyone!!
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Andy Yates 26/12/2003
not given
anyone interested, i came across this item on my regular ebay urf
leon posted that jacket
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=299
28&item=3374081298
Its being sold by our web master himself Leon Tsilis. Aparently only 5
were made and this is probably the last one remaining.
Its a good few decades old, its a medium, and anyone who knows "the man"
will certainly know he definitely aint medium.
Its almost an anorak, so those interested I'll leave it to you
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FatDrummer 26/12/2003
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Hi and a belated merry xmas to all.
To the conspiracy theorists:
Check out the 'Happy Holidays' link on the .com site for a personal
message from Andy P. The obvious lack of annimosity between Andy and
Mart shines through....sorry.
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Whammybar 26/12/2003
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Clearly a conspiracy between Messrs. Powell & Turner being content with
the Mart hates Andy undercurrent. They are both more grown up than a lot
of us, obviously!
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Name not given 26/12/2003
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READ ALL ABOUT IT !!!,READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!...POSH AND BECKS ARE GETTING
DIVORCED....THE BEATLES ARE GETTING BACK TOGETHER!!!...WELL THATS WHAT
THE SUN SAYS...MUST BE TRUE!!!
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Quickben 30/12/2003
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Anyone know if wishboneash.com firums are down at the moment?
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billyauld 30/12/2003
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Just been on and forums ok
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Ray Pascual 30/12/2003
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Thanks whoever it was who referred me to biscuit's site with the
tabs....I can now do a number of the solo's....well sort of...!!
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Ray Pascual 30/12/2003
raymond.hewlett83@ntlworld.com
I was viewing the WA 30th Anniversay concert tape and enjoyed it a
lot...but what i noticed on Phoenix was that AP didn't do much! I have
noticed that at all times he hands over TT's stuff to the new guy in the
band...but did TT do all the lead stuff on Phoenix? Anyone understand
what i mean?
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Al B 31/12/2003
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Hi Ray,
Yes TT did all the lead work on 'Pheonix' (apart from the harmony
sections)Andy was/is pretty rooted to the wah wah chord pickings -
giving the song an edge that few bands/guitarists would have of come up
with. I don't think Andy's rhythm/chord work is given enough credit e.g.
his playing on 'Why Don't We' and of course the classic intro to 'The
King Will Come'.
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Andy Yates 31/12/2003
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Did anyone else see Top Gear on sunday 28th? The background music they
used to one of the sports cars slots was Tangible Evidence". Jeremy
Clarkson for a New Years honour Please.
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Ray Pascual 31/12/2003
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Hi Al B
Thanks for your reply and I do so agree with your comments re AP's
superb rhythm guitar. Do you think that I am right that AP continues to
play only HIS solo passages or are there any examples where he now plays
those originally played by Ted or Laurie?
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Al B 01/01/2004
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Ray, I believe Andy pretty much sticks to his original parts, and quite
rightly too! There may be exceptions that people may come up with, but
for the classic songs, things are kept as they were. The only
significant role changes have been in the vocal department.
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Mel Tinside 02/01/2004
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Living Proof with guitarists other than Laurie, Andy plays Laurie's
lines on the end section not his own. The other player (eg.Ted) would
play Andy's chord work.
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Hilco 05/01/2004
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You have a great site. I realy like it. I have on my site some pictures
i make in 1976 fron ash in holland. Maybe you like it.
http://members,home.nl/arendshorst.1/index.html
Greats from Holland
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hiles 05/01/2004
arendshorst.1@home.nl
Herstel.
http://members.home.nl/arendshorst.1/index.html
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Ray Pascual 07/01/2004
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Hi All
Argus has been Wishbone's most successful album (to my knowledge) both
in sales and in terms of most popular songs when being performed live on
tour. I would love to know who wrote those songs: was it a combined
effort of Turner, Upton, Turner, Powell? Or did one of them stand out in
creating those songs? This is rather like asking who wrote the
Lennon/McCartney tunes or the Jagger/Richards ones. Anyone any ideas? I
would love to hear your views.
Ray
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Rainer Frilund 07/01/2004
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please
Hi,
About Argus. Here's a couple of things I'm aware of:
Blowin' Free's intro is Andy's idea. The rest of the
song is co-worked (a jam session at Whisky A Go Go
according to some stories) with Martin's sad story
of a meeting with a Swedish girl ;-).
The intro on "Throw Down the Sword" is Andy's warm-up
exercise.
"Leaf and Stream" is Steve's lyrics and Andy's/Ted's
composition.
All other lyrics except "Leaf and Stream" are by
Martin, of course.
Also, I guess Ted's pretty much responsible for
the quiet passage in the beginning of "Time Was".
That's what I can remember off hand.
Best Wishes - Best Bones!
Rainer Frilund
Kokkola, Finland
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Mel Tinside 07/01/2004
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Rainer's post would suggest that Martin therefore had little creative
involvement in Argus, other than lyrics. Can anyone elighten us further?
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Gordon 07/01/2004
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IS Fred Renz out there?? According to the he .com site, you had
something to do with an alternate WA with Ted back in the early 90's /
late 80's. Is that true?? If so, please tell us about it, I'd love to
know.
As for Martin's composing contributions to Argus, I don't think Rainer
is suggesting that Martin's contribution was confined to the lyrics, he
just could not account for everything, I s'pose. I'm sure MT had a hand
in all the songs, from the composition of the melody, the riffs
(especially the excellent bass line in SW), the guitar and vocal
harmonies to the drum breaks. If Martin reads this, perhaps he'd like to
toot his own horn a bit and tell us; inquirung minds want to know!
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LEN WILES 07/01/2004
leonard.wiles@ntlworld.com
Been a fan since whenever.
Early stuff is without doubt the best.
Get the 'old boys' together to do albums like Argus....... by far the
best, blows me away!!
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Rainer Frilund 08/01/2004
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please
Oops!
My mail describing what I know of Argus
is far from complete. Please don't make
any conclusions concerning Martin's
involvement.
There's still a lot of facts missing.
Sorry if I mislead anyone.
Best Wishes - Best Bones!
Rainer Frilund
Kokkola, Finland
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Fred R 08/01/2004
fr21555@aol.com
Gordon,
NO TRUTH to any story about my involvement with WA in ANY capacity at
any time, other than as a fan/friend. It would appear a guitar I owned
that was once Andy's has been put on Ebay and my name was added to it
for the sake of adding a "provenance" to justify its cost. I have asked
the seller to remove references to me from the ad, as I can't see how my
owning it could possibly mean anything to anyone. The history of the
guitar got "embellished" to the point where I became a member of the
band (don't I wish!. Andy had a good laugh about it when I spoke with
him the other day about it and he said "welcome to MY world".
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Gordon 08/01/2004
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Fred:
1) Thanks for clearing that up!
2) It must have been nice for a while to have been an 'alleged' member
of the band!
Happy new year to all in Wishboneland - here's to another year of
continued growth, success and kick-a** shows!
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bob c 08/01/2004
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Go with that one, Gordon - Happy New Year.
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Ray Pascual 08/01/2004
ray@theamazing.worldonline.co.uk
Argus....more! Thanks for your informative and helpful replies, but now
another question! Why didn't such a great album launch the band into
super stardom in the seventies? I believe they were voted the band with
most potential by Melody Maker or something similar at that time as a
result of Argus. At that stage, everything looked right for super
success...so what went wrong? Views please.
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Fred R 08/01/2004
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Ray, my two cents worth: I blame the record company, as they didn't do
enough to keep the band in the public's eye. The band did their | 
